short op tour for ex-QA?

napier

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My OH left the QAs about 5 years ago after 6 years' service. On leaving she went back to the NHS (A&E/Nurse Practitioner). She has heard that some civvy nurses have been hired to deploy on ops to base hospitals and would like to do likewise (she misses the whole Army thing and wants to contribute).

Is this still the case; if so, who do I speak to and what are the terms and conditions?

She can't rejoin/go TA as we have 2 young kids and I am serving - but I figure that if I'm in a desk job I could cover childcare for a month or 2.

Please advise.
 

napier

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Thanks very much
 
#5
You will need to look at recent editions of Nursing Times / Nursing standard. There was an advert for NHS nurses ( not Frontier Med. ) to do a stint in Bastion. However, the advert was for Paediatric Nurses. It is the best point of contact I am aware of.
 
#6
National Health Service Support to Operations (NHS-S20)

"Have You Got What it takes"

If you are a NHS employed Children's Nurse and interested in finding out more about working alongside the Defence Medical Services on Operations in Afghanistan, you should contact

Staff Office 1, Medical Plans
Level 6, Zone E
Surgeon General's Department
Ministry of Defence Main building
Whitehall
London SW1A 2HB

Telephone 020 7807 0455



If you look at Nursing Standard Paediatric jobs. They have sent other skills but cant find any further details.
 

napier

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Thanks again for the pointers.

Leviticus, As I said before, I am still serving and she doesn't have the time to give on a more regular basis. She left the Army because we wanted kids - I haven't met any serving couples who have kids and don't have problems with concurrent/consecutive deployments (I'm scheduled for H12). As I understand it, civvy medical staff are used to augment the reg/TA staff at places like Bastion and can negotiate the start date and length of their contract - that wouldn't happen with the TA.
 
#9
and of course the money is a bit better than the TA! :twisted:
 
#11
snornin said:
I heard it was £5000 per month for the NHS staff plus other benefits!
3 months on, 2 months off, sack it whenever you want, demand to stay in a hotel while on predeployment training (and get it! the girl who deployed with us refused to stay in the accom and off she went, with transport to pick her up and take her back each day, tab picked up by the tax payer!)
 
#12
Filbert Fox said:
snornin said:
I heard it was £5000 per month for the NHS staff plus other benefits!
3 months on, 2 months off, sack it whenever you want, demand to stay in a hotel while on predeployment training (and get it! the girl who deployed with us refused to stay in the accom and off she went, with transport to pick her up and take her back each day, tab picked up by the tax payer!)
Damn right Mercenary....... makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. Is it anything to do with caring for the sick and wounded or simply the attraction of ‘pop star’ wages? If this is the case... Why don't our military AHPs get paid more???
 
#13
Leviticus said:
Why don't our military AHPs get paid more???
because some of them dont even deserve what they actually get now and let the rest down, especially when interviewed by the pay review board!

Theres a distinct lack of drive and ambition in certain areas.
 
#14
Karabiner said:
Filbert Fox said:
Leviticus said:
Why don't our military AHPs get paid more???
because some of them dont even deserve what they actually get now and let the rest down, especially when interviewed by the pay review board!

Theres a distinct lack of drive and ambition in certain areas.
Couldn't agree more, I must admit to getting cheesed off with working hard to achieve better terms and conditions of service and pay only to be let down by apathy and lack of engagement...off thread I know and rant over.........OUT
Actually... YEAH your both right, it does wanna make you:
 
#15
Karabiner said:
Filbert Fox said:
Leviticus said:
Why don't our military AHPs get paid more???
because some of them dont even deserve what they actually get now and let the rest down, especially when interviewed by the pay review board!

Theres a distinct lack of drive and ambition in certain areas.
Couldn't agree more, I must admit to getting cheesed off with working hard to achieve better terms and conditions of service and pay only to be let down by apathy and lack of engagement...off thread I know and rant over.........OUT
Some CEG's appreciate your hard work and effort! My pay pack will look much nicer from tomorrow.

Sluice
 
#16
typical nurse, always drag the conversation round to you! me me me! :D
 
#17
I heard it was £5000 per month for the NHS staff plus other benefits!
60K per year taxed to work in Afghanistan-I doubt there are many professionally (being the operative word) qualified staff(not just NHS) who would work there for that. Its unlikely they would be entitled to post tour leave etc as any civilian contract I would assume, would be for a set period-Short tour without leave.

It would be intersting to see what other benefits Bastion has to offer a civvie-free use of the gym, free dental treatment maybe-who knows
 
#18
The civvies in Iraq had access to all facilities plus med & dent care. As for post tour leave, I would imagine that they would have worked a bit of post tour down time into their plans.
 
#19
They may have worked some time into their own and their employers plans. That may not necessarily be the plans of the contractor who will be paying them for their tour. In the contracting world 90 days is exactly that, if thats what the contract says. If there is overlap ie 4 weeks leave and someone has started their tour thats double payment for the contracting authority.

Contracting is high pay but comes with a high risk. You dont generally benefit from pension rights, professional development, BUPA or similar, med insurance, sick pay etc that lots of reputable companies provide to staff positions.
 
#20
smithy749 said:
They may have worked some time into their own and their employers plans. That may not necessarily be the plans of the contractor who will be paying them for their tour. In the contracting world 90 days is exactly that, if thats what the contract says. If there is overlap ie 4 weeks leave and someone has started their tour thats double payment for the contracting authority.

Contracting is high pay but comes with a high risk. You dont generally benefit from pension rights, professional development, BUPA or similar, med insurance, sick pay etc that lots of reputable companies provide to staff positions.
 
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