Shock News - SEX SCANDAL - DAY 3!

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  1. And another thing....... Day 3 of the sordid tale... all still from the Telegraph..

    Officers 'bet on who could bed lesbian stable maid'

    Officers from one of the Army's most elite cavalry units took turns to try to get the regiment's lesbian stable maid into bed, an industrial tribunal heard yesterday.

    A major in the King's Royal Hussars, who allegedly pestered a female warrant officer into having sex with him, tried several times to seduce the stable maid, the hearing was told.

    Officers maintained a "bets book" in which they laid down sexual challenges concerning female members of the regiment, the Southampton tribunal has been told.

    The major told the female warrant officer, WO2 Angela McConnell, 41, of West Lulworth, Dorset, that "nobody has ever managed to get her into bed because she is a lesbian".

    The stable maid was a lance-bombardier in the Royal Horse Artillery. Any officer who slept with her would have breached strict army rules on sexual relationships between commissioned officers and other ranks.

    WO McConnell said that while gathering evidence for her case she spoke to the stable maid to ascertain whether she recalled being propositioned by the major. "She said she had been approached by most of the King's Royal Hussars officers. The name rang a bell but she couldn't recall the face."

    WO McConnell told the tribunal that the major continued to sleep with other women throughout their 11-month relationship. "It wasn't a love affair," she said. "He wasn't exclusively mine."

    The tribunal has heard that the major had affairs with at least a dozen women, including five other non-commissioned soldiers, his wife's best friend and a number of air hostesses with whom he indulged in group sex. "He seemed to have an awful lot of female friends and he kept getting text messages," WO McConnell said.

    But at the same time he was trying to make her "exclusively his", she said. "He wanted a situation where I would leave my husband, get a little house and the major pops around whenever he needs me; and he's got four or five others tucked up somewhere."

    The sexual boasts were just one of a variety of methods he used to try to get her into bed, she said. "That didn't work so he changed his technique and told me all he wanted was me. Then he'd go into the crying mode, and then there was the insincere whisper mode. He was using all sorts of techniques."

    WO McConnell, who has admitted sexual liaisons with two other cavalry officers as well as a lesbian relationship with another soldier, said the major also attempted to chat up two of her friends.

    He even asked WO McConnell if she fancied one of them. "He was attracted by the idea of having sexual intercourse with me and another woman," she told the tribunal.

    Wendy Outhwaite, counsel for the MoD, said: "Oh come on, he didn't have sex with everyone he met, did he? WO McConnell replied: "No. But that's the impression you got."

    She admitted telling Lt-Col Tim Allen, the commanding officer of the King's Royal Hussars, that the major was "not a dirty pervert".

    But she, the major and another female officer with whom he had slept were under investigation. She said she was lying to save not just their careers but those of the many others who would be dragged into a full-scale investigation of the regiment's mores. "Lots of people would have gone down."

    The tribunal also heard psychological evidence to explain WO McConnell's reluctance to report the major over the hundreds of sexually explicit telephone calls she claims he made to her.

    She was heavily influenced by her father, a Royal Navy officer who was very strict, said Col Mary Piper, the army psychiatrist who treated WO McConnell.

    "She behaves in a way you often see with people raised by someone overly critical," Col Piper said. "This is a woman who is obviously fairly vulnerable to authority figures.

    "She would have found it difficult because of the rank differences. I think she obviously had a great deal to lose by standing up and asserting herself in the workplace."

    That view was backed up by Andrew Gritt, the community psychiatric nurse treating WO McConnell. He said: "Rather than assert her views, she would try to please figures of authority both in her professional and private lives."

    The hearing continues.
  2. Things had gone past that stage, I think.
  3. Sounds like lots people went down

    then up

    then down

    then up......
  4. This all sounds normal to me.

    Can't see what all the fuss is about :wink:
  5. just a normal day in the Cav surely! Wallop some olde donkeys and then do their Cav horsey stuff :D
  6. I mean really, what do you expect from a regiment that wears cowpats on their heads...
  7. Oh yeah, Hinecap... please explain what this has to do with Stamped Addressed Envelopes?
  8. Hmm, not sure what to think about this one. I was rather planning on joining them.

    Oh well, only a crime if you get caught i suppose. :?

    Question begs to be asked though, why did they not focus upon rather more realistic game. Eg: Not lesbian. Why too did they not focus upon more legal game. Eg: Not off-limits-by-law.

  9. Before this thread is moved over to the NAAFI bar, it needs to be said that Col Piper's professional judgement is well respected by professionals and patients alike.

    Not to worry though Henry, M'learned friend will soon change all that.....
  10. Still confused if your Father has been in the Navy then you are likely to have affairs with 3 officers, an affair with a female Capt, give a BJ at a xmas party to get rid of a boring drunk and whatever else she did? Can you imagine

    " McConnell...give me your Switch Card and PIN number....Yes Sir, grateful Sir after all you out rank me and I can blame it all on my Father" B@llocks

    And quite seriously, if this sort of thing "Officers maintained a "bets book" in which they laid down sexual challenges concerning female members of the regiment, the Southampton tribunal has been told" had been students instead of an Officers Mess , would anyone care?? I reckon it's because the MOD has loads of money and students don't.

    Ah ...too cynical , but I blame it on me old man :wink:
  11. To be honest students probably have slightly less of an overdraft than the MOD at the mo.
  12. This woman was a Warrant Officer; I remember the first WO to speak man-to-man-with me on my own promotion to say something along the lines of:" when you're a Corporal, a Sergeant or a Staff Sergeant, you can always refer the problem upwards. As a Warrant Officer you have to find a solution, because if you refer it upwards it won't be solved". He was entirely right and later reached very senior rank.

    Here endeth the first ...... :)
  13. WB
    As a once long suffering resident of the Aldershot QA mess, I would judge that this man was probably the exception that broke the rule!

    ( perhaps you never worked amongst the nocturnal visitors to the mess from Anglesea House ? Garlic Sauce anyone??)
  14. Not me, M'Lud. A case of mishtaken identity. I was hiding under a bed in D of K at the time.
  15. it will be interesting what the army heirarchy have to say about this when it is over. i understand that many messes of this type have some form of wager book.

    if the CO knows it is going on, he had better start looking for a new job in the city as his head will form the sacrificial emblem displayed on the pole outside the gaurdroom gate.

    if he was probably a sqn comd two tours previously he might have difficullty claiming no knowledge of such behaviour as this might offend the chiefs if the social code is being broken. he may hope that there is nothing there with his flick on it. no doubt the mod lawyers (and others) have already gone over it.

    cav response?: social code apply to us?....