Sharia courts in the UK, fatwas in support of Jihad in Syria, all on British soil?

#1
I wanted to open this discussion with you guys on the topic of issuing Islamic Jihadi Fatwas on British soil in support of foreign conflicts i.e Syria.

Here is a part pasted from the article, if you look at the people mentioned, they are all pro Muslim Brotherhood and Pro Alqaeda types, but what caught my eye, was the head of the Sharia Courts in the UK, a Mr Naitham al Hadad.

"Dr Yusuf al-Qaradawi, president of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, Dr Ali Gomaa, grand mufti of Egypt, Sheikh Rachid al-Ghannouchi, founder of the Ennahda party in Tunisia and Dr Haitham al-Haddad from the UK Muslim Research and Development Foundation have signed up."

Muslim Scholars Impose Fatwa on Syrian Army - International Business Times UK


Their Fatwa goes on the grounds of :-

"It is not permissible to remain in service in the Syrian army and the security forces in the current circumstances. It is a duty to desert the forces and to stand against them."



What amazes me, is the fact that the UK claims to be in a conflict with Islamism on a global scale, correct me if I am wrong, but why are British Nationals of Arab origin, running Sharia courts, which are gender biased, oppressive and lack equality allowed to sign fatwas alongside some of the worst anti-western, pro Khalifate, Pro Jihadi Islamic figures/clerics in the Arab Muslim world?

How come the Western press or the public not addressed this very concerning issue and confronted Mr Al Hadad for being in support of Jihad in Syria,, ahhh yes, wait, the British government, who couldnt even take the 7/7 victims into consideration, have decided to support the same people who probably screemed Allah ho akber when those bombings happened.

What's your view, is it acceptible for British Nationals to issue fatwas in support for Jihads abroad?
 
#3
Drivel and utter tosh,welcome back AK.....Did you get wet yesterday or was you hiding under the bed scared of the thunder....
 
#4
Oh dear, another one come to bore the arrse off us. They must get some sexual pleasure or they are too dim to start their own site.
 
#6
Who gives a ****? A fatwa has no legal force, meaning or precedent under UK law. It's exactly same as the Tilehurst End singing "You're going to get your ******* head kicked in!".
I think the more important point alluded to by the OP is that perhaps it might be considered that Britain lends legitimacy to such declarations by default through allowing it to be made and not formally denouncing it.

On the face of it, I agree, who cares. But it is how it is seen by those outside the UK that might be considered to do more harm.
 
#8
AK you are so last season, things have moved on. William Hague, will be Insha'Allahing that Fatwa as his baldy little head bumps on the prayer mat. It's supporting DC and therefore HMG policy which is to bring down the Baath and bugger the consequences.

The Takfiri international are now brave freedom fighters heroically opposing Satanic pro-regime forces in Syria. It's like back in the days of the 40th army's Pashtun war, they'll be on the cover of Guns & Ammo again soon.

It's a little inconvenient that we are still in a ruck with the talibans but Barry has spoken, most of the US force is high tailing it in 2014. So it looks like we'll be handing the keys of Kabul to Sirajuddin Haqqani shortly, he'll be having tea at No 10 before you know it.
 
#9
If we were to reverse things around and lets say the Taliban issue a fatwa that British Muslims in the British army should disobey their officers and fight for Islam and Quran, I think some here would think differently.

Mr Al Hadad is a British National, who has signed a agreement alongside well known pro Jihadi Anti West Islamic clerics,I am sure that would be a bit concerning, since he is running Sharia courts on your soil, the same courts, that dictate that women are worth half of a man.
 
#10
AK you are so last season, things have moved on. William Hague, will be Insha'Allahing that Fatwa as his baldy little head bumps on the prayer mat. It's supporting DC and therefore HMG policy which is to bring down the Baath and bugger the consequences.

The Takfiri international are now brave freedom fighters heroically opposing Satanic pro-regime forces in Syria. It's like back in the days of the 40th army's Pashtun war, they'll be on the cover of Guns & Ammo again soon.

It's a little inconvenient that we are still in a ruck with the talibans but Barry has spoken, most of the US force is high tailing it in 2014. So it looks like we'll be handing the keys of Kabul to Sirajuddin Haqqani shortly, he'll be having tea at No 10 before you know it.
Well said, but would it not be in your interests to atleast keep Islamofacism to a halt in the West?
 
#12
I think the more important point alluded to by the OP is that perhaps it might be considered that Britain lends legitimacy to such declarations by default through allowing it to be made and not formally denouncing it.
Formally denouncing something can often give weight to the original statement, ignoring it the same way as you do with any random ineffectual loony on the High St with his bottle of Frosty Jack, is often the better option.
 
#13
If we were to reverse things around and lets say the Taliban issue a fatwa that British Muslims in the British army should disobey their officers and fight for Islam and Quran, I think some here would think differently.
Seeing as the Taliban are Sunni and consider fatwas to be non-binding I'd still say you were talking out of your fat, plastic-Afghan arse.

I think I'll have a pork and stuffing baguette for my lunch today.
 
#18
If we were to reverse things around and lets say the Taliban issue a fatwa that British Muslims in the British army should disobey their officers and fight for Islam and Quran, I think some here would think differently.
Are you suggesting that they haven't? I'm sure that there are thousands of anti-Western muslims stating that Islamic British soldiers are traitors or some other bollocks - I think we get around that particular issue by not actually giving a ****.

In this country we have something called freedom of speech. If someone wants to say that service in an army that is accused of war crimes on a large scale by the UN is not-permissible by moral standards - something which pretty much everyone except you seems to think is perfectly reasonable - then why the **** shouldn't they?

Also, can you keep all of your bollocks to one thread, you're dull and predictable enough as it is without crayoning across half of the site.
 
#19
Seeing as the Taliban are Sunni and consider fatwas to be non-binding I'd still say you were talking out of your fat, plastic-Afghan arse.

I think I'll have a pork and stuffing baguette for my lunch today.
So in other words, you accept and support the right of Sunni extremists on British soil to issue Fatwas alongside some very Anti-Western Islamic Sunni clerics against the Syrian army.

The purpose of the Fatwa is not to be established as a form of Law, but to express support in some way or another on the context of Islam to hit out at the Syrian regimes crack down on Western backed Islamofacists.

Like I said, if Mullah Omar issued a statement saying British Muslims in the British army should defect, disobey and turn on their fellow British soldiers, you wouldnt be acting like a little cheeky MILF would you.
 
#20
Are you suggesting that they haven't? I'm sure that there are thousands of anti-Western muslims stating that Islamic British soldiers are traitors or some other bollocks - I think we get around that particular issue by not actually giving a ****.

In this country we have something called freedom of speech. If someone wants to say that service in an army that is accused of war crimes on a large scale by the UN is not-permissible by moral standards - something which pretty much everyone except you seems to think is perfectly reasonable - then why the **** shouldn't they?

Also, can you keep all of your bollocks to one thread, you're dull and predictable enough as it is without crayoning across half of the site.

You just mad bro because your governemnt is spending large amounts of tax payers money to arm the same people who slit throats of your own people, shameful isnt it, being lead by traitors.

Go sluck somewhere else, its a simple yes or no, you support Al Hadad drivel in support of Jihad on Syria or not?
 

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