Shameful temporary accommodation at BZZ

#1
From today's Sun: Your final vision of Britain before you fight for country

By TOM NEWTON DUNN
Defence Editor

THE shameful squalor faced by British soldiers before they are sent to fight in Afghanistan is exposed by The Sun today.

Our pictures show a broken pipe spewing out sewage, mouldy accommodation huts and broken windows taped up with plastic at RAF Brize Norton – where airborne troops stay before flying to the war zone.

The appalled gunner who gave us the photos said: “Imagine this as the last place in England you see before you die for your country.”

[Photo] Royal Air farce ... welcome to squalid Brize Norton base
He added that his comrades could not wait to get to Afghanistan because their living conditions THERE are “far better” than they are HERE.

The appalling state of the Oxfordshire base’s barrack blocks has resulted from decades of decay including:

THE FRACTURED pipe, from which stinking human waste and used toilet paper flows on to a road.

SLEEPING quarters riddled and stained with damp, causing paint to peel off walls.

COLLAPSING ceilings in washrooms.

RATS running rife in the seedy conditions.

CRIPPLED ablution blocks, forcing squaddies to walk 100 metres past the sewage to have a warm shower at night, and

A FAULTY electricity supply, leaving troops in the dark when it fails...
Photographs of the same accommodation were published by BAFF a year ago, but the Sun report comes as a surprise to the Ministry of Defence. The MOD says that the portacabins have not been used for Service personnel deploying to Afghanistan and the last use of the accommodation was eight weeks ago: "Nevertheless the Chief of the Air Staff and the Defence Secretary are very concerned and have asked for this to be investigated urgently. We will make sure that whatever may have happened in the past, no service personnel will have to stay in this accommodation in such a state in future."
 
#3
hackle said:
From today's Sun: Your final vision of Britain before you fight for country

By TOM NEWTON DUNN
Defence Editor

THE shameful squalor faced by British soldiers before they are sent to fight in Afghanistan is exposed by The Sun today.

Our pictures show a broken pipe spewing out sewage, mouldy accommodation huts and broken windows taped up with plastic at RAF Brize Norton – where airborne troops stay before flying to the war zone.

The appalled gunner who gave us the photos said: “Imagine this as the last place in England you see before you die for your country.”

[Photo] Royal Air farce ... welcome to squalid Brize Norton base
He added that his comrades could not wait to get to Afghanistan because their living conditions THERE are “far better” than they are HERE.

The appalling state of the Oxfordshire base’s barrack blocks has resulted from decades of decay including:

THE FRACTURED pipe, from which stinking human waste and used toilet paper flows on to a road.

SLEEPING quarters riddled and stained with damp, causing paint to peel off walls.

COLLAPSING ceilings in washrooms.

RATS running rife in the seedy conditions.

CRIPPLED ablution blocks, forcing squaddies to walk 100 metres past the sewage to have a warm shower at night, and

A FAULTY electricity supply, leaving troops in the dark when it fails...
Photographs of the same accommodation were published by BAFF a year ago, but the Sun report comes as a surprise to the Ministry of Defence. The MOD says that the portacabins have not been used for Service personnel deploying to Afghanistan and the last use of the accommodation was eight weeks ago: "Nevertheless the Chief of the Air Staff and the Defence Secretary are very concerned and have asked for this to be investigated urgently. We will make sure that whatever may have happened in the past, no service personnel will have to stay in this accommodation in such a state in future."
I see, so living in a squalid mess is only a problem if you're about to deploy? What about the poor saps left behind?
 
#5
devexwarrior said:
can you post the pics as the net nazi won't let me see the pics on the scum site, ta
Main pic is protected and I can't just copy and upload it, because they know who I am!

Caption is "Shameful ... raw sewage spills out of a pipe next to dilapidated prefab huts at Brize Norton"

Main pic shows a group of pretty nasty light blue portable buildings peeling to yellow. I can see about getting BAFF's pics of the same buildings back up on our website, if it is an issue.

There is also a slideshow of other pics. Shocking actually.
 
#6
How strange, That same plastic and Black tape pattern was featured on the BAFF web site a year ago, not the same picture mind you. looks like not much has changed in twelve months. :wink:
 
#7
Ashamed is an inadequate word.
Disgusting is getting closer, but still not strong enough.

Who is actually responsible for the Portacabins? RAF BZZ, or the Army?

Whichever, I doubt there's any prospect of getting the [50%] responsible Secretary of State, together with a few of the even-lesser Ministers, being sent to spend a day there?
 
#9
I see The Scum talks about "decades of decay" ... have these overflow facilities [oops] really been there for decades?

However, where's the money to address the issue? Mrs B_S was involved in "Works Services" in the past. She has had barrack blocks declared "unfit for use", and every year the LTC just moved the funds off to the right again.
 
#10
blue_sophist said:
Ashamed is an inadequate word.
Disgusting is getting closer, but still not strong enough.

Who is actually responsible for the Portacabins? RAF BZZ, or the Army?

Whichever, I doubt there's any prospect of getting the [50%] responsible Secretary of State, together with a few of the even-lesser Ministers, being sent to spend a day there?
The RAF. They hold the purse strings. I'm sure if the MOD really wanted to investigate this they could start by reading the complaints written by soldiers who had stayed there over the last three years. The porta cabins had passed their sell by date years ago. but this was ignored. Now it has bitten them in the ARRSE
 
#11
blue_sophist said:
I see The Scum talks about "decades of decay" ... have these overflow facilities [oops] really been there for decades?

However, where's the money to address the issue? Mrs B_S was involved in "Works Services" in the past. She has had barrack blocks declared "unfit for use", and every year the LTC just moved the funds off to the right again.
My mother is retired now, but she was doing the same all through the 1990s. Blocks and facilities in a secret airbase in the Vale of Glamorgan were condemned 3 or 4 times and pressed back into use. Did they ever see any of the cash from the sale of MQs? Did they fcuk.
 
#12
Please read the BBC response as well - linked up the page. It is a little more balanced and less of a knee-jerk picture parade.

I'm not saying this is acceptable - just that the Stun is keeping sales high with sensationalist reporting - the same we all hate when they use the same methods to slag us.
 
#14
Looks like the Para training accommodation at BZZ

It's been in a steadily decaying state since the early 1980's

Two schools of thought here
Para training staff '' we don't want our boys getting comfy at BZZ, let them live in shite''

RAF admin '' Its not ours, Para Training own it , let them pay for upkeep''

Never known it used for transit though, para jump training only. But with cutbacks who knows
 
#15
Question = how often are said cabins used - are they purely overflow for overflow and how long do people stay there?
Agree its a total disgrace, but we need to know if this is the exception for them to be used or the rule?
 
#18
Darthspud said:
Looks like the Para training accommodation at BZZ

It's been in a steadily decaying state since the early 1980's

Two schools of thought here
Para training staff '' we don't want our boys getting comfy at BZZ, let them live in shite''

RAF admin '' Its not ours, Para Training own it , let them pay for upkeep''

Never known it used for transit though, para jump training only. But with cutbacks who knows
Careful - you're getting danger close to the truth there. Of your schools of thought I think the first is more accurate, strongly supported by the second.

However, even if its only for the para course its still pretty bad.

Doubt if it figures in CATARA...................
 

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