Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Robbo_72, Nov 11, 2012.
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fcuk's sakes, shitty deal.
SAS war hero jailed after 'betrayal' - Telegraph
I'm surprised that this has not attracted any posts. Is there something that some of us do not know? I wrote a savage letter to my MP to complain about the conviction of this man.
Today though, I have seen a close-up photo of Sgt N and observe his miniature medals with some curiosity. It is the order in which they are hung that 'interests' me. Dopey tailor maybe?
There was a thread on this, where's it gone?
From what I can see they are hung correctly. UN-ish, GSM prob NI bar, Afg, Iraq and GJM.
I'm not so much 'interested' as curious to hear if there has been a miscarriage of justice here ?
Has the man broken the law ?
Has the man broken the law and everyone around him is trying to distort the facts to help him ?
Is what everyone connected with him is saying true and he is being unfairly sentenced ?
Did the guys who were supposed to have packed his kit for him and included the firearm actually speak up ?
I am neither curious nor interested in how well hung his gongs are ......
That's funny, I don't remember replying to you.
lsquared was the one 'interested' in his medals. I was curious what there was to be interested at.
So typical that a man might have been wrongly convicted and some are only worried about how his medals have been hung in the right or wrong order and who responds to his public post .....................
I wasn't responding to the mans conviction. I don't know the man, nor was I in the hearing so know only what is in the Telegraph and Mirror articles.
I was questioning why lsquared found his medals off.
I appear infrequently these days post wise, but still read all when I can.
However this has really got my goat up big time, of course I can only get my hackles up on what I read and i have raised this petition up for just that purpose.
Petition Urgent Review of Sgt Nightingale's Sentence
God knows what my Grandfather brought back from the Khyber Pass and the Boer war knowing the Skins, it it wasn't bolted it went walkabout.
However I smell a stitch up on this one, otherwise they are speaking with a forked tongue.
Lets have it out in the open.
I am fed up with the pollies changing the rules to suit theirselves, we are above that.
If we are in the wrong we take the punishment. in this case it planily stinks period.
Just my thoughts and I believe in them.
An attempt to put the record straight.
When I read the Telegraph story, with near uncontrollable rage, I wrote immediately to my MP.
(My name and address removed)
Sunday 11 November 2012
Dear Miss Greening,
May I express may outrage at the custodial sentence passed on Sergeant
Nightingale for being the unwitting possessor of a hand-gun.
That Sergeant Nightingale was charged was simply yet another example of
how our craven politicians make 'an example' of a soldier in order to
show how 'even handed' they are.
This matter ought to have been handled at regimental level; and the
offending weapon confiscated and destroyed. Instead a gallant man is
destroyed together with his blameless family.
Sadly I must tell you that I am aghast at how this pathetic apology for
a government has treated the Armed Forces - aghast and ashamed.
The cynical appointment of a 'Treasury stooge' to the Ministry of
Defence, with the obvious task of further reducing spending in the
Department, is for me the final insult to our Armed Forces; many of
whom are deployed in harms' way in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
Kindly convey my disgust to the Secretary of State at the treatment of
Sergeant Nightingale in particular; and the treatment of the Armed
Forces in general.
I have the acknowledgement of receipt from Miss Greening:
Rt Hon Justine Greening MP
Putney, Roehampton & Southfields
House of Commons
Thank you very much for your recent email. I wanted to email back to let you know that it has been received and I will be taking action on it over the next few days.
If you are a Putney, Roehampton or Southfields resident then it would be very helpful if you could include your full name and address in your email. If you haven't, please resend your original email including this information as I cannot reply without it.
I receive a large number of emails and letters each day but I aim to respond to your message as soon as possible.
Rt Hon Justine Greening MP
I then turned to Arrse to read the Arrsers outraged posts.
There were none!
Hell! I thought for a short while that the paper and I had been spoofed and that my letter to my MP would result in her telling me to 'find out the facts' et cetera.
Using my lap-top screen I was curious about the man's medals because I thought the first one was a NATO medal for Former Yugoslavia and that it could not have been awarded BEFORE the Gulf War medal.
Conclusion: I need a larger screen; new eyes; and a more detailed knowledge of medals.
Post Script: Even a Moderator queried the absence of the thread.
I can find it cached but the thread has been chopped and the posts aren't in A&E either. Where's my tinfoil hat?
Sounds very much like a stitch up; seriously, do you really need clinical evidence of a brain injury to explain having more important things on your mind when you've had to escort two fallen comrades back to Blighty? FFS! Sounds like a sh*t brief he had, too.
There is another thread... same title as well. Interweb is playing ghosts..
I see nothing wrong with the order his medals are mounted either.
As for the sentence handed down by the judge, he broke the law that isn't in dispute and given the circumstances he seems to have been given a very lenient sentence, whether his medical condition should have been taken into account by the judge is one for people who get paid a lot more than me to sort out.
However, if this had been Pte Dicklips RLC would there be this much outrage? What about if it was some civvy? Or, are people suggesting that being a member of the SAS should put someone above the law?
Separate names with a comma.