Servicing your own bike to be illegal?

TheIronDuke

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#1
Chatting to a chum who is a badly dressed motorcycle hooligan he tells me there are plans afoot about servicing bikes. That you must take it to an authorised garage to be serviced thus making it 'illegal' to service it yourself. Anybody heard about this or is he being wound up? I've tried Google but can find nowt.
 
#2
It's bollocks, how would all the classic bikers get their machines serviced? "Hello, can I book in my 1923 Champion Imperial for a service? What's that you say?".
 
#4
As a badly-dressed motorcycle hooligan meself, I can confirm that the EUSSR are planning to interfere with all manner of things bike-related. And when they've finished with us, they'll be coming for you car drivers.

How would you, for instance, like to allow passing police officers to interrogate your car's onboard diagnostics and download GPS data showing the cars's recent journeys and speeds and issue FPNs for every recorded infraction? A smidge too Orwellian, perhaps?

Consultation and response documentation can be found here: EU proposed regulation for the type approval and market surveilance of 2 and 3 wheeled vehicles and quadricycles - Consultations - Department for Transport - fill it in, object to everything and get it done by Oct 28.
 

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#5
Surely the MOT negates the need for 'authorised servicing'?

As long as the bike/car/tank/spaceship passes it's yearly test, who gives a **** what happens to it in the time inbetween?
 
#6
Surely the MOT negates the need for 'authorised servicing'?

As long as the bike/car/tank/spaceship passes it's yearly test, who gives a **** what happens to it in the time inbetween?

If Kwik-Fit aren't making a few bob out of it, then that's an impediment to economic recovery. And after all, if just one life is saved, surely any amount of vastly expensive interference in what is laughingly called our private lives is justified.......
 
#8
The proposed legislation doesn't say that servicing must always be carried out at an authorised workshop, it says that manufacturers must release servicing and maintenance information to independent workshops. There is no requirement to actually service the thing at all.
 
#9
If Kwik-Fit aren't making a few bob out of it, then that's an impediment to economic recovery. And after all, if just one life is saved, surely any amount of vastly expensive interference in what is laughingly called our private lives is justified.......
I disagree Darwinism still has its place, if your too dumb to keep your bike in good order and a wheel comes off more fool you.
 
#10
On a related note (sort of) I have just heard that having tyres (car and bike) over 6(7?) years old will be a reason for an MOT fail as from next year?

More rumour or fact this time?
 
#12
Lots of stories going around the classic car people about not being able to work on a car in Italy If you are not qualified, or you carn't do an oil change or drop the coolant in Germany. I haven't come across facts to back up these stories and think most restrictions are down to environmental considerations but I wonder how long we will be able to do our own welding or brake repairs in this "elf n safety" new Jarusalem were building.
 
#13
It's bollocks, how would all the classic bikers get their machines serviced? "Hello, can I book in my 1923 Champion Imperial for a service? What's that you say?".
Hopefully that will force the ugly, noisy, chrome clad pieces of shite off the road. And I'm all for it applying to 'classic' cars too. The roads today are just too busy to get stuck behind something pastel colured, half timbered and with leather tyres resolutely doing 32mph. Even at the sodding weekends.
 
#14
Hopefully that will force the ugly, noisy, chrome clad pieces of shite off the road. And I'm all for it applying to 'classic' cars too. The roads today are just too busy to get stuck behind something pastel colured, half timbered and with leather tyres resolutely doing 32mph. Even at the sodding weekends.
It's a fair bet my classics are faster than your eurobox except for my 2a which fits your description to a tee. But then again you are my crumplezone and I thank you for that.
 
#15
Hopefully that will force the ugly, noisy, chrome clad pieces of shite off the road. And I'm all for it applying to 'classic' cars too. The roads today are just too busy to get stuck behind something pastel colured, half timbered and with leather tyres resolutely doing 32mph. Even at the sodding weekends.
If the daily heil is anything to go by it won't be long until 32mph is the maximum allowed speed (if you have the advanced driving licence) and all vehicles * will be governed to not be able to exceed this limit.

* all vehicles except government/council/wives of etc of course.
 
#16
On a related note (sort of) I have just heard that having tyres (car and bike) over 6(7?) years old will be a reason for an MOT fail as from next year?

More rumour or fact this time?
A vicious rumour that's been floating around the internet for a few years.
There is a recommendation (from anyone selling tyres) that you should not fit tyres older than 5 or 6 years because the rubber degrades due to UV rays.
 
#17
On a related note (sort of) I have just heard that having tyres (car and bike) over 6(7?) years old will be a reason for an MOT fail as from next year?

More rumour or fact this time?
On a bike I would have changed em any way irrespective of tread depth ; the tyres go less grippy if they are stood which I have learned from bitter arse clenching experience
 
#18
What the new legislation actually says is that you cannot fit non approved items to your motorcycle (and car).

So, when servicing your bike, you cannot stick in a K and N filter instead of your manufacterers or OEM one. You cannot put on fancy wavy disks and carbon pads (that dont bloody work on a road bike at road speeds anyway!). That you cannot remap/rejet your fuelling etc etc.

There is not doubt that some items sold as performance parts are lethal. I have one dead friend whose fancy carbon front wheel (for race track only) collapsed and catapulted him under a lorry. So, cracking down on Non Approved items I feel is a good idea.

What must be remembered is that some performance items are approved, and will continue to be legal. Certain bike manufacturers have there own approved performace exhausts for example and many after market exhaust suppliers meet the proposed standards already.


What will happen is things like mini indicators will dissapear off the shelves, and again, thats no bad thing when you consider some are so small and with smoked glass that they are almost useless.
 
#19
Hopefully that will force the ugly, noisy, chrome clad pieces of shite off the road. And I'm all for it applying to 'classic' cars too. The roads today are just too busy to get stuck behind something pastel colured, half timbered and with leather tyres resolutely doing 32mph. Even at the sodding weekends.
Don't forgot those inconsiderate bastards that block roads crawling along in old Military vehicles converted in to sheds ;-P:muhaha:
 

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What the new legislation actually says is that you cannot fit non approved items to your motorcycle (and car).

So, when servicing your bike, you cannot stick in a K and N filter instead of your manufacterers or OEM one. You cannot put on fancy wavy disks and carbon pads (that dont bloody work on a road bike at road speeds anyway!). That you cannot remap/rejet your fuelling etc etc.

There is not doubt that some items sold as performance parts are lethal. I have one dead friend whose fancy carbon front wheel (for race track only) collapsed and catapulted him under a lorry. So, cracking down on Non Approved items I feel is a good idea.

What must be remembered is that some performance items are approved, and will continue to be legal. Certain bike manufacturers have there own approved performace exhausts for example and many after market exhaust suppliers meet the proposed standards already.


What will happen is things like mini indicators will dissapear off the shelves, and again, thats no bad thing when you consider some are so small and with smoked glass that they are almost useless.
Can't see aftermarket sellers of automotive parts taking too kindly to this news!
 
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