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#2
Well done McDonald. Seems like he did a good job.
 
#3
Full respect to him for being in Basra, especially down at the OSB, but I fail to see that he did anything other than his job. The light infantry lads down there are in firefights almost daily and they're lucky to get a thankyou from the OC. Is it just me, or are these things political more than anything?
 
#4
A Royal Military Police officer from Bristol has been commended for his
bravery and initiative in the aftermath of a Lynx helicopter crash.


Sergeant Ian McDonald, 33, was one of the first at the scene of the incident in
Basra, Iraq.

All five crew members died in the crash which took place in May 2006.

BBC Read More
 
#6
Excellent job - finest traditions etc. Did someone brief the journo - Sgt headlined as 'officer' rather than Senior Non Commissioned Officer? Maybe his officers need all the puff they can get
 
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Just amazed that anyone in RMP management actually recognised the efforts of an OR.
 
#8
Well done Ian,
Great to see him doing well, he last got GOC LONDIST commendation for jumping into the Thames river (high tied) to save a pissed SIB female in Mess dress. He jumped in, grabbed her (while she was unconscious) then swam her to the bank. Oddly enough I don’t believe she said thanks to him afterwards.
 
#12
RFUK,

By that standard no infantryman should ever recieve any recognistion either, as they can also be stated to be just doing their job, yet somehow, one of them was awarded a VC. (Which just to make clear I feel he did deserve).

Why do I get the feeling that if it was a member of the infantry you would be pleased for them, but as this chap happens to be a monkey his award is somehow not appropriate? Double standards I think.

Well done to him.
 
#13
Nothing to do with his arm of service so far as I am concerned. My point was a SNCO being consistently described as "officer" suggested to me that PM(A) press officer was larging it up to suggest a Corps officer had actually achieved something worth while at last.
 
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FRAG said:
Well done Ian,
Great to see him doing well, he last got GOC LONDIST commendation for jumping into the Thames river (high tied) to save a pissed SIB female in Mess dress. He jumped in, grabbed her (while she was unconscious) then swam her to the bank. Oddly enough I don’t believe she said thanks to him afterwards.
Did he give her one while she was out for the count? if not why not!!
 
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OldRedCap said:
Nothing to do with his arm of service so far as I am concerned. My point was a SNCO being consistently described as "officer" suggested to me that PM(A) press officer was larging it up to suggest a Corps officer had actually achieved something worth while at last.
the chances are that the press refer to him as an officer in the same way as they refer to most rozzers as police officers, when the rozzer could be a constable or a sergeant or indeed higher, hence military..pause two..three.. police officer
 
#16
Getting back to the point. This guy did his job exceptionally way in an operational environment in a high pressure and fairly unique circumstance. How many of us have been on the scene when a helicopter piles in killing so many?

After the event the powers that be decided that his performance was worthy of recognition. As I wasn't there I can't be the judge of whether that recognition is appropriate or whether it should have been at a higher level. The little we saw on the box showed it was a pretty awful post crash circumstance.

So let's not belittle his achievement.

Hats off to you mate you did well!
 
#17
With respect to Sgt MacDonald earning his award - does anyone remember the evening in question.

Within minutes the Mardi army had rustled up a good sized demonstration with the antagonists in the front ranks chucking everything from rocks to their grannies - it could have been very easy for the man to have stayed on his roof.

In my opinion he really deserves his commendation.
 
#18
I go with the comments on this one about PM(A) and the need for his officers to be given a boost. As far as my humble opinion goes the Commissioned Officers in the Corps are about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Mind you bearing in mind who the current PM is, it doesn't suprise me his orifices don't know what they are doing. :)
 
#19
LMAO Tozca. He's the one who lauds the "achievments" of his ossifers in the Journal at every opportunity, but tends to forget his ORs keep the whole game running. He'll probably praise the lad's OC for putting him on that roof in the first place. Well credit where credit is due - Yeah Right!
 
#20
By that standard no infantryman should ever recieve any recognistion either, as they can also be stated to be just doing their job, yet somehow, one of them was awarded a VC. (Which just to make clear I feel he did deserve).

Why do I get the feeling that if it was a member of the infantry you would be pleased for them, but as this chap happens to be a monkey his award is somehow not appropriate? Double standards I think.
Apologies if I came accross like that.


I don't mean to belittle the guy at all - I've every respect for him in fact. It's just that I've also a lot of respect for a lot of others who i've seen doing more than their jobs worth - be they infantry, artillery, RMP or other - without recognition.

When I was on the worlds most bone tour at BAS, one of our lads was awarded a commendation from the GOC for giving basic first aid to a couple of people. He did well, but really nothing out of the ordinary and certainly nothing compared to what (as I later found out) the lads in the city were up against every day. When we returned to the UK, his picture was on the front page of the local rag with "HERO" or some similar headline and a creatively worded version of events. It was clearly a political move that our OC had somehow managed to swing.

The reason I passed comment was that this event made a lot of us feel that we'd been belittled for what we did.
 

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