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Discussion in 'Officers' started by monkey_tech, Jan 25, 2007.

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  1. monkey_tech

    monkey_tech Clanker

    Gentlemen

    I know their has been quite a discussion in the Seniors forum about a Cpl drinking on a regular basis in the Sergeants mess and to whether this is good form.

    However, my question to you is two fold.

    At an upcoming function in the Officers mess I would like to invite a civilian, substantive rank of Sergeant, as my guest to the function.

    So if this is not considered not to bad form, I presume that a letter to the PMC should be written to ask permission to invite her in.

    So to summary, can she come, and how do I form the letter I assume I’m going to have to write.

    Regards
     
    monkey_tech, Jan 25, 2007
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  2. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    M_T,

    If she is not known in the mess (ie not from within your unit), then a quiet chat with the PMC should suffice. No uniform for her, and behaving as the other guests do should see her right.

    If she is within your unit or C of C then it is a very different matter.

    Duke

    BTW, if she is a civilian, how can she be a substansive Sgt?
     
    The_Duke, Jan 25, 2007
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  3. ViroBono

    ViroBono LE Moderator

    You say that your intended guest is a civilian with the substantive rank of sergeant?

    If she is a Police Sergeant, then there is no problem, since she is (as you say) a civilian.

    If she is in the TA, then she is still a civilian unless attending on duty, which is unlikely. However, just in case someone else in the Mess may have met her in uniform, a note to advise the PMC would probably be wise.
     
    ViroBono, Jan 25, 2007
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  4. monkey_tech

    monkey_tech Clanker

    Thanks Chaps,
    She is civil service, but living on camp she is accommodated and fed in the Seniors mess. I don't think she is known, so I'll try the quiet word with the PMC.
    Cheers
     
    monkey_tech, Jan 25, 2007
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  5. untallguy

    untallguy Old-Salt Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Bear in mind, the rank equivalency is only for T&S - therefore, she is a civvie and should be treated (including invitation) in the Mess exactly the same as any other guest.
     
    untallguy, Jan 25, 2007
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  6. Mr_C_Hinecap

    Mr_C_Hinecap LE

    However, as a member of the Sgt's Mess (living there, paying dues etc) then it might complicate things, so best to ask.
     
    Mr_C_Hinecap, Jan 25, 2007
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  7. Friendly_Fire

    Friendly_Fire War Hero

    I'm confused by this. How can you be a Sergeant and a civilian? Is she TA?

    Do civilians live in the Senior's mess? If so, are they given a rank?

    Cheers for any clarification,

    Confused from Yorkshire
     
    Friendly_Fire, Jan 25, 2007
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  8. the_matelot

    the_matelot LE

    Monkey,

    What grade of Snivel Serpent is she?
     
    the_matelot, Jan 25, 2007
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  9. elovabloke

    elovabloke LE Moderator

    If she's a civi - she's a civi, no problem no letter.
     
    elovabloke, Jan 25, 2007
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  10. CardinalSin

    CardinalSin LE

    Then she isn't substantive rank of Sergeant at all. She's the equivalent grade for messing purposes. You've not been for very long have you?
     
    CardinalSin, Jan 25, 2007
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  11. compus_mentus

    compus_mentus War Hero

    C_S is correct. A sgt she ain't. However, best cover your back and have a word with PMC (and probably SLIM). The thing to avoid is stories being told back in the Sgt's mess, but if she was like that, you wouldn't be inviting her :)
    :batman:
     
    compus_mentus, Jan 25, 2007
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  13. Pocoyo

    Pocoyo War Hero

    Don't worry, take her in the officers mess a few times and you can claim she has the "substansive" rank of Captain - if thats how you believe it works.

    Just what are they letting out of Sandhurst these days.
     
    Pocoyo, Jan 26, 2007
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