Selly Oak mercy flights for Afghanistan wounded delayed

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Selly Oak mercy flights for Afghanistan wounded delayed by ash cloud
Apr 17 2010 by Matt Lloyd, Birmingham Mail

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FLIGHTS bringing injured troops to Selly Oak Hospital from Afghanistan have been made subject to the closure of UK airspace.

All flights in an out of the country remained on hold as the cloud of volcanic ash from Iceland hovered over the country.

However, an RAF spokesman said plans were in place and in the case of emergency troops could be brought to Selly Oak for expert treatment.

“We are subject to the restrictions so we’re looking at alternative ways to get people home,” she said.

“With medical evacuations, depending how urgent it is we would come up with something and we have a dispensation for essential flights.

“If we talk to the National Air Traffic Services (NATS) and it’s necessary we can get them home. But there are options to keep soldiers in theatre and treat them there or take them to another European country.”

She added no evacuations had taken place during flight lock-down.

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/...wounded-delayed-by-ash-cloud-97319-26260918/?
 
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And I suppose that if al Europe closes, we could ask the Yanks to medevac back to US. Hard on families, but the important thing would be securing the right treatment fast, without endangering aircrew and medics.
 
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Skynet said:
However, an RAF spokesman said plans were in place and in the case of emergency troops could be brought to Selly Oak for expert treatment.

“With medical evacuations, depending how urgent it is we would come up with something and we have a dispensation for essential flights.
Doesnt the above quote make it a bit of a non-story? Those needing life saving treatment are still going to land in Birmingham.
 
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vampangua said:
And I suppose that if al Europe closes, we could ask the Yanks to medevac back to US. Hard on families, but the important thing would be securing the right treatment fast, without endangering aircrew and medics.
Good point, but isn't US medevac still normally to Germany initially? Any news on how the US is handling the same problem?

Either way I am sure that our own medevac system will sort something out as the need arises, either via Allies, or direct into UK.
 
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Is it Possible to send your wounded to to our Hospital at Landstuhl until the flights can resume?

I cant see us saying no unless its at full capacity already
 
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Goldbricker said:
Is it Possible to send your wounded to to our Hospital at Landstuhl until the flights can resume?

I cant see us saying no unless its at full capacity already
Given the huge extent of the ash I'd be unsurprised if German airspace is also off limits.

EDIT:

The German soldiers recently wounded in an attack have had to be diverted to Turkey, so German airspace is certainly closed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100416/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_iceland_volcano
 
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Most of wards and facilities have been closed/scaled back in Cyprus - not cost effective to keep military hospitals remember?
 
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So IF royalty or "senior" MP's wish to move they go by train/road or sea?
 
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263A said:
So IF royalty or "senior" MP's wish to move they go by train/road or sea?
Presumably yes. As a matter of interest, there are no MPs at the moment!

Perhaps we should be thinking again about the importance of the sea lanes and the Royal Navy.
 
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It's not just where the plane can get to, it's what the trauma team is like when the patient arrives. We know a lot about US military medical standards: anyone here know if any DMS PQOs have seen the facilities in the places the previous poster suggested?
 
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MOD has also said that "Alternative arrangements with coalition partners are in place for urgent medical evacuations whilst options are being assessed and reviewed to allow delayed personnel to continue their journeys."

Any public news on the 1 SCOTS pax delayed in Cyprus?
 
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Herrumph said:
Most of wards and facilities have been closed/scaled back in Cyprus - not cost effective to keep military hospitals remember?
Yes, how ironic that we find ourselves in that position - perfectly decent facilities in Cyprus, ready for such an occasion, and we find that HM Treasury has cocked up that contingency plan as well!
 
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hackle said:
MOD has also said that "Alternative arrangements with coalition partners are in place for urgent medical evacuations whilst options are being assessed and reviewed to allow delayed personnel to continue their journeys."

Any public news on the 1 SCOTS pax delayed in Cyprus?
BBC say over 500 hundred MILPER awaiting flights in Cyprus
 
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hackle said:
MOD has also said that "Alternative arrangements with coalition partners are in place for urgent medical evacuations whilst options are being assessed and reviewed to allow delayed personnel to continue their journeys."

Any public news on the 1 SCOTS pax delayed in Cyprus?
Arrived back in Edinburgh this afternoon, from bbc below

"More than 100 soldiers arrived home in Edinburgh from a six month tour of Afghanistan on Sunday after spending the last few days in Cyprus.

The members of B Company, 1st Battalion the Royal Regiment of Scotland, had originally been due to arrive home at lunchtime on Friday.

They were flown into France on Saturday and spent the night travelling overland by coach and ferry. "
 

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