Selling Car to buy New Uniform

#1
I am at the 'Fun Factory' and have just been sent an unsolicited letter from Goldings with the Royal Regiment of Scotland's new Mess Dress and Clothing requirement. It appears that i need

Patrols which i am taken to believe are what most people would call No. 1's but then i know that No 1's are Archer Green???
3 x Trews (Service, Mess, Patrols) can these really be all that different???
2 x sporran (apparently one has a No 1. sporran and a mess dress sporran? Although it is just the tassels that change?)
A kilt suprisingly doesn't appear??

I can see that it is going to be expensive with the lack of second hand kit but i am looking at about £2000 OVER my allowance??

Anyone want to buy a second hand Golf - low milage looking to exchange for Uniform
 
#2
Join one of the Corps instead!

Buy your kit from the Dead Officers' Kit Shop!

Trade in the Golf and buy a Merc or a Subaru.

What kind of an Officer would be seen dead in a Golf?

Litotes
 
#3
Devil_may_care said:
I am at the 'Fun Factory' and have just been sent an unsolicited letter from Goldings with the Royal Regiment of Scotland's new Mess Dress and Clothing requirement. It appears that i need

Patrols which i am taken to believe are what most people would call No. 1's but then i know that No 1's are Archer Green???
3 x Trews (Service, Mess, Patrols) can these really be all that different???
2 x sporran (apparently one has a No 1. sporran and a mess dress sporran? Although it is just the tassels that change?)
A kilt suprisingly doesn't appear??

I can see that it is going to be expensive with the lack of second hand kit but i am looking at about £2000 OVER my allowance??

Anyone want to buy a second hand Golf - low milage looking to exchange for Uniform
The good uniform fairy is allegedly going to give you one.possibly made by concentration camp inmates in Nether Bongo-Bongo Land but a free kilt none the less :D
 
#4
Litotes said:
Join one of the Corps instead!

Buy your kit from the Dead Officers' Kit Shop!

Trade in the Golf and buy a Merc or a Subaru.

What kind of an Officer would be seen dead in a Golf?

Litotes
The kind who might join a Corps?
 
#5
fas_et_gloria said:
Litotes said:
Join one of the Corps instead!

Buy your kit from the Dead Officers' Kit Shop!

Trade in the Golf and buy a Merc or a Subaru.

What kind of an Officer would be seen dead in a Golf?

Litotes
The kind who might join a Corps?
Choose your weapons, ladies...



:D
 
#6
DozyBint said:
fas_et_gloria said:
Litotes said:
Join one of the Corps instead!

Buy your kit from the Dead Officers' Kit Shop!

Trade in the Golf and buy a Merc or a Subaru.

What kind of an Officer would be seen dead in a Golf?

Litotes
The kind who might join a Corps?
Choose your weapons, ladies...



:D
Guardian Offers - Handbags

Damn. That's just blown my slightly to the right of Genghis Khan cover......

Litotes
 
#7
fas_et_gloria said:
Litotes said:
Join one of the Corps instead!

Buy your kit from the Dead Officers' Kit Shop!

Trade in the Golf and buy a Merc or a Subaru.

What kind of an Officer would be seen dead in a Golf?

Litotes
The kind who might join a Corps?
He should be so lucky

Hurrah for the CRE!!
 
#8
Litotes said:
Join one of the Corps instead!

Buy your kit from the Dead Officers' Kit Shop!

Trade in the Golf and buy a Merc or a Subaru.

What kind of an Officer would be seen dead in a Golf?

Litotes
That's where I've been going wrong all these years. I should have taken the wife's advice and bought that E320 CDI estate she wanted :wink:
 
#10
Litotes said:
What kind of an Officer would be seen dead in a Golf?
Litotes
Have things changed so much? 8O Back in the day, a Golf was the car for young thrusters.
Subarus? chavalicious! :wink:
I shall stick with my ML.
 
#12
From a once Jock Officer (although my info is out of date for RRS):-

Do not goto Goldings!

they finished the work they started for me more than 6 months after the promised delivery time

Get your kilt from L Penrose, he is a good bloke, and delivers on time, although mine cost just shy of £500, That is where the majority of (BW) officers get theirs. Alternativley contact the Regimental (Battalion) tailors, should be able to get one for around £120.

You can get 1x sporran, and change the tassels from RHQ or Home Headquarters or whatever it is called these days - no need to buy two of the things, just spend 5 mins changing over tassels for appropriate order of dress.

I am no expert, having been out of the loop since the new structure (GYC a couple of years ago you see), but surly you just need "patrol trews" (tartan 1A) and maybe 'day trews' if you are with the 42nd, (tartan 1, or maybe the other way around).

And I cannot emphisise enough - DO NOT GO NEAR GOLDINGS - took 6 months to rush various items off 10 mins, that took a further 3 months to fix...and I wasn't the only one to have problems.

Any questions, please PM me.

HJ
 
#13
Please trust me when I say ignore everything until you have spoken to one of the Jock Officers at Sandhurst.

The detail of what you will need will be given to you on Tailor's Day by one of the officers, I can assure you! If in any doubt please pm me.
 
#14
Hattie_Jacques said:
From a fellow Jock Officer:-

DO NOT GOTO GOLDINGS

they finished the work they started for me more than 6 months after the promised delivery time

Get your kilt from L Penrose, he is a good bloke, and delivers on time, although mine cost just shy of £500, That is where the majority of (BW) officers get theirs. Alternativley contact the Regimental (Battalion) tailors, I know those of the BW could do you one for around £120.
Dated information as Penrose no longer exists properly!

You can get 1x sporran, and change the tassels from RHQ or Home Headquarters or whatever it is called these days - no need to buy two of the things, just spend 5 mins changing over tassels for appropriate order of dress.
You only need one sporran and it is the same for day and night.

I am no expert, having been out of the loop since the new structure (GYC a couple of years ago you see), but surly you just need "patrol trews" (tartan 1A) and maybe 'day trews' if you are with the 42nd, (tartan 1, or maybe the other way around).
Only 1A.
 
#15
Devil,

Can I just add that listening to Barbs on this is probably the wisest move you will make all day - if not all year.

This man knows what he's talking about.
 

cpunk

LE
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#17
These thing seem to go in cycles. When I was commissioned, Gieves and Hawkes were the pre-eminent military tailor and everyone used to chimf about what a rip off they were. I remember receiving a letter from them offering to provide my uniform with a price list that came to exactly the same amount as my uniform grant, within a pound or two. The tricky thing was that this included SD, No 1 and side hats which, as I was commissioning into the Int Corps, were somewhat unnecessary (two berets from the QMs at Ashford sorted me out on that front for a massive six quid). Instead, I went to bright, thrusting Goldings for my uniforms: they were of very high quality and very good value, leaving me with enough cash from my grant to have a bespoke suit made and pay for flights for a post-commissioning week in Corsica. Goldings now seem to be held in the same regard as Gieves were. Hard to tell who is going to be next on the scene, if anyone.
 
#18
Whether they´re any good or not, what the hell are Goldings doing writing to Officer Cadets telling them what they need? Surely that is the job of the Regimental Secretary, who should also be providing advice on suppliers.
 
#19
Definately right to check with a Jock officer. Am still waiting to see final details of SCOTS dress but:

A. As the new regiment is all kilted, mess dress will be in kilts, so no need for separate trews.

B. You will need one set trews for orderly officer etc to wear with Blue patrols. There is, I understand, and order of service dress in which trews are worn (as the lowland regiments did), but I'm not sure how pften this will happen, and pretty sure you dont need seoarate pair for it. The other rime you wear trew is knocking around in your wooly pooly at Staff College etc, and it is nice to have a comfy pair of trews that are slightly wider cut than the ones you wear for dress-up, but it doesnt really matter and you can always get them later.

C. My understanding was the new hair sporran was for day and night wear, and there are no gold bullion tassles (As per Gordons, Highlanders) attached for wearing with mess dress, but this may have changed.

D. The only other sporran you need is a leather day sporran, which you can probably get issued.

E. Blue patrols are not the same as No 1. Blue patrols is very smart single breasted navy blue tunic for wearing with trews. No1 jacket is completely different cut.

F. There is, I am sad to say, only 1 tartan in the Royal Regiment of Scotland, it it is Govt Pattern 1A.

Would be interested to hear what the final result is.

I can recommend Meyer and Mortimer 6 Sackville St, London as tailors. Not the cheapest but immaculatequality and v good service.
 
#20
jock_sinclair said:
I can recommend Meyer and Mortimer 6 Sackville St, London as tailors. Not the cheapest but immaculatequality and v good service.
Jock,

I fully concur with your recommendation having uniform made by them, Saddiq, Asif, Goldings and Kashkets. However, M&M have priced themselves out of the military tailoring market and Goldings are getting close to that too.

Getting a full description of dress has been difficult but the plot is becoming clearer day by day!
 

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