Selection grades

#1
Just wondering how the grading works. I know obviously the better you do, the higher the grade. But for instance if I passed with a grade B, 3 months before another recruit did with a grade A, would be be called up for basic before I did.

Sorry if this has been done before.

Cheers
 
#2
The system works like a list. If you score a grade B and another applicant a few months later scores a grade A, he or she will jump the list and get a place before you.

Just try your best. As long as you put everything into it and behave there's no reason you can't come home with a grade A or high B. Only the little pricks go home with C's and D's - the applicants that aren't suitable for the army.
 
#3
anyone know what the actual point boundries are for each grade?
 
#4
anyone know what the actual point boundries are for each grade?
Yes I do but the grades irrelavant, its not the grade its getting as higher IDST score you can...so just put in 110%
 
#5
Iron, Out of interest do you need a higher score to get an A for the paras?

I ask as I had a sprain and ran only a 9:24 at selection (8:30ish at preselection) and I only got a B, whereas lads who ran a 10:00 time for other regts got As, I was told I did really well on everything except the run, was that enough to make an A a B?

Cheers
 
#6
Once they have assessed you on the whole of ADSC they add points onto the TRHJ system and get your final IDST score this also takes into account marks 1-6 on your run time, Basic Skills, BARB test and overall performance. When your scores go on the system and your ADSO finalises it you then will be told your score ...if over 112.64 your on a b grade if over 124.75 your on an A grade. Your placed on the Awaiting allocations list according to your score so it doesn't matter how many A grades there are as those with higher scores or who go down after you will go above your score until your allocated.It doesn't matter what job your going for IDST score grade is the same for all...you will have to do PRAC if adult entry and as long as you have a grade at ADSC then passing PRAC is your main focus now.
 
#7
Iron, just wondering mate but given those scores to achieve a or b etc. Would 130.56 be considered a high A or not? Thats what I got at Selection and even though it's one of the highest they've seen in my recruitment office, I was more wondering how it scales overall throughout the country so to speak. Cheers.
 
#8
Once they have assessed you on the whole of ADSC they add points onto the TRHJ system and get your final IDST score this also takes into account marks 1-6 on your run time, Basic Skills, BARB test and overall performance. When your scores go on the system and your ADSO finalises it you then will be told your score ...if over 112.64 your on a b grade if over 124.75 your on an A grade. Your placed on the Awaiting allocations list according to your score so it doesn't matter how many A grades there are as those with higher scores or who go down after you will go above your score until your allocated.It doesn't matter what job your going for IDST score grade is the same for all...you will have to do PRAC if adult entry and as long as you have a grade at ADSC then passing PRAC is your main focus now.
How does the grading system work after you complete PRAC? Do they allocate you a place for basic depending on your ADSC score
 
#9
How does the grading system work after you complete PRAC? Do they allocate you a place for basic depending on your ADSC score
Yes once you pass PRAC you are then clicked over on the system and put on the PARA waiting list (by this time a lot of those have failed PRAC so numbers less) your then allocated from your IDST score. So you have to do well on ADSC and PRAC.
 
#10
Today I had my 3rd interview and was very surprised when he showed me the IDST forms which basically show what points you need and how its broken down, can't believe the run is only 6 points (Although I guess it is pass/fail), I have ADSC soon and I'm raring to go, my recruiter (a Major) said I was going to 'smash it' so hopefully I will :D good luck to anyone else doing ADSC soon!
 
#11
Today I had my 3rd interview and was very surprised when he showed me the IDST forms which basically show what points you need and how its broken down, can't believe the run is only 6 points (Although I guess it is pass/fail), I have ADSC soon and I'm raring to go, my recruiter (a Major) said I was going to 'smash it' so hopefully I will :D good luck to anyone else doing ADSC soon!
Its a points system depending on your run time so 6 points if under a certain time 5 points etc....but you have a whole lot of points (1-6)to get for a number of different things like determintion, effort etc during PT session, team tasks, grenade lesson, Icebreaker so its all on overall performance...as said many times if your struggling to do 10.30 on the run you will get poor marks overall on the PT session.
 
#12
Yeah thats what I meant sorry, 6 points maximum for a really good run. He emphasised just putting maximum preparation and effort into everything and show you want it and they will make you fit afterwards. For reference I did my pre-ADSC and ran a 9.43 (and I was up late the night before, unavoidable :( ) so hopefully will do alot better at ADSC :)

P.S - whilst I have the chance I would like to ask, are the questions at TST at foundation, intermediate or higher level? I have searched but couldn't find a definitive answer and want to buy some revision books tomorrow to brush up :)
 
#13
Any tips on how to achieve an A or B grade??
 
#14
Be confident, show you want it, make yourself visible and don't be the grey man. In the team tasks, if you are being quiet, you will mostly likely fail. Even if you aren't participating, shout encouragement, even if someone makes a mistake, cheer them on. When you are in your down time make a point of getting to know those around you, you are being constantly watched and assessed. Make sure your fitness is up to standard and practice your icebreaker, just be positive, as has been said before, only the divvies that aren't suited for the army get C or D grades, put every fibre of your being into showing you want it, and you will get it. Good luck.
 
#15
Its years ago for me and much more difficult now but you have to prepare yourself the best you can.Be fit, Be intelligent, Be well informed, Show humility and work your arse off and help your course mates .Good Luck
 
#16
Cheers lads, I think I can do all that, well I will do all that if I want it as much as I do!!!
6 days and counting!!! Dun dun duuuun
 
#17
Personally, I enjoyed selection a great deal. As said before, I made sure that I showed myself for what I can do and what I'm about. I was always positive and jovial. During teamtasks I think I really shined because I gave my input without being shouted down from the other boys but also without shouting them down if they had a better idea. Major point has been mentioned already - do not get pissed off or start laying blame on anyone during teamtasks. There was one task that I won't reveal because it'll remove the point in you doing it but a guy made a mistake and when we had to start again, I merely said to him, ''Look, don't worry about, put it out of your head, make sure you concentrate'' etc. When we failed a few more times, I could tell a few of the younger lads were getting angry and down about it. I just called out over them, ''right lads, we've fucked it, never mind, back to the start''. The idea I'm trying to put across is don't let any of it get you down, just remain positive. Even if you can't complete a task. We managed 2 out of 3.

Listen to everything and I mean EVERYTHING the instructors say and do what they command immediately. Out of 30 guys, only 2 failed and they were back in 3 months. I think 4 or 5 including me got an A grade and at least 10 were B's. The guys who got C's and D's were the ones who didn't strain for that last pull up; didn't sprint on the last circuit; didn't push themselves to puking point on the run and most important of all, they just stood during teamtasks waiting for everyone else to decide what to do without putting any effort into trying to help. (even when prompted by the instructor).

I did selection in June and as I said, passed with an A. My last tip is that when you do the heaves, don't just do them till it begins to ache, do it until you literally have your eyes bulging out of your skull and can't lift your head over that bar again. Just be yourself and give everything you've got even if it means you spew.
 
#18
My last tip is that when you do the heaves, don't just do them till it begins to ache, do it until you literally have your eyes bulging out of your skull and can't lift your head over that bar again. Just be yourself and give everything you've got even if it means you spew.
Heaves are no longer done, its now just run, bag lift and jerry can carry.........plus the first night PT session where as said above put 110% in, blood and sweat.
 
#20
No heaves? Ah well, selection just got easier then haha :D.

LT Smash, don't worry about that. Trust me, your recruiting office will not send you off to ADSC if they didn't think you'd pass. As for failing the whole of ADSC, you'd probably not find many who do. Most people get deferrals for 3-6 months at most. (Unless they've changed it Iron?)
 
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