Didn't read the paper on the way to work so was unaware of this until called in for a team meeting at work. (Shopping centre) Story here: Security guard 'killed shoplifter over bottle of perfume' | Metro.co.uk As a security guard and former store detective I can't get my head round this. How the **** did he not notice the poor bastard had gone limp? Have used headlocks pulling scrotes to the floor, but never choke holds. Once his opppos had got a grip if he's struggling its all grab a limb and play bucking bronco, not apply potentially lethal holds. Christ sake 4 of them and none noticed he was in trouble? Its enough of a bloody drama when you get someone resisting and a couple of you are safely restraining a mong who wants to be else where or to kick off. The public see it as heavy handed when all you are doing is holding down arms and legs of some one screaming their nuts off, while avoiding bites,punches and kicks, oh and the spitting is always nice. This bunch of half wits has just made every Security guards/Door supervisors job harder. The guy killed was an ex Welsh guardsman, with some Issues apparently, but even if he had been you're average crackhead this shouldn't have happened. We have been informed at work now to avoid all confrontation and if a shoplifter refuses to return to store, to let him walk off and monitor them until arrival of police. So cue farce this afternoon as we followed a guy with a stolen tv for 20 minutes until police caught up to us.