Secret deal kept British Army out of battle for Basra

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  1. msr

    msr LE

    A secret deal between Britain and the notorious al-Mahdi militia prevented British Forces from coming to the aid of their US and Iraqi allies for nearly a week during the battle for Basra this year, The Times has learnt.

    Four thousand British troops – including elements of the SAS and an entire mechanised brigade – watched from the sidelines for six days because of an “accommodation” with the Iranian-backed group, according to American and Iraqi officers who took part in the assault.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article4461023.ece

    msr
     
  2. Nothing to do with Brig Ed Butler's untimely retirement, I don't suppose!?? Just a thought......
     
  3. What a shame no-one had the imagination to do a secret deal to not send them to Iraq in the first place.....
     
  4. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    Glad the Americans had the men, kit and funding for the job, as well as the Iraqi army.

    Thanks DES, good work, thanks Gordon Brown and thank you Tony Blair. You've made fools of the British by failing to support your own army before, during and after you sent them into battle.
     
  5. Didn't 'Buff' Hoon go on a skiing holiday when the lads were going into battle? Nothing like supporting the people you are responsible for (and that's nothing like supporting the people you are responsible for).
     
  6. Is anyone still surprised by the spinelessness of our government?
     
  7. Any similarity to some of the deals negotiated in Helmand in 2006? Perhaps this is why Karzai threw the two 'Diplomats' out?
     
  8. Spinelessness? Americans whining? 'Elite Iraqi Army units?

    Listen Gentlemen, how you can have the f*****g gall to criticise British troops, when you the Americans and the f*****g CPA hamstrung our efforts in Basra in the first place,leading to have to allegedly do deals with Al-Sadr. And as for 'Elite Iraqi Units'? Oh do f**k off. Tell me you've reformed the Republican Guard and I might believe that.

    Elite at what? Mortaring British troops and bases? Elite at taking their f*****g time to get a grip?

    We have had to try and put a lid on Basra for years, in spite of the best efforts of the CPA, USA , the Iraqi Army and the IPS to fcuk us over.

    Seething of Seething Wells.


    The one where the two *cough* diplomats realised just how far corruption and involvement in the drugs trade went in the Afghan Government? *allegedly*. You mean that one?
     
  9. At least some of the Yanks responding to the article are approaching it with a bit of sense:

    "The British military was betrayed by their political masters. Do the NuLabor Socialists hate the military that much?!

    Starved of funds & equipment, treated worse than criminals at home and when they are still victorious on the battlefield, they are left humiliated by spineless pols."

    Fernandez, San Jose, CA


    The responses in general are from 'embarrassed British civilians' fukcing knob ends (probably to a man/woman they ahve never served in the Armed Forces), if they can't see this has bugger all to do with the Soldiers on the ground (who would have been itching to get in there) then fek em all, tossers...
     
  10. Yeah that's the one. Wasn't the original deal with the Taliban and the local tribes? Obviously the direct competitors with the Government in the drugs trade.
     
  11. Sounds about right. At least the American public can see it.
     
  12. msr

    msr LE

    and

    http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/9604
     
  13. This isn't actually true, is it?

    I wonder if Colonel Richard Iron would take my word for it if I told him I could fly through the fcuking air, leap tall buildings in a single stride and that the Nigerian Minister for Bongoes had left him a hundred million quid in his will?
     
  14. On 25 March - six days before 31 March - Des Browne was announcing that "Professor Sir Kenneth Calman has agreed to serve as Chair of a Commission to review the Scotland Act. "

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmhansrd/cm080325/wmstext/80325m0002.htm#0803253000089

    During this period, Two Jobs also...

    http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200708/cmhansrd/cm080421/text/80421w0001.htm