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Scousers - can they sink any lower?

BuggerAll

LE
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I was a child in the 70s, my dad was a coal miner and we lived in a council house,ergo - we had f**k all.

Neither did 95% of the people who lived on our estate or in our village.

I was never in danger of starving, neither were any of the other kids - in fact, I was well fed, with cheap healthy and nutritious food, ie fruit and vegetables, with the odd bit of meat.

I know there is a world of difference between then and now, however - my parents did the best they could - no fancy cars, or holidays or unnecessary expenditure, the priority was putting food on the table and keeping a roof over our heads by paying bills on time.

Modern parents need to look at the sacrifices their parents made, and ask themselves if they are doing the same for their kids.
I think that ship may have sailed. The current generation of parents we’re discussing were brought up in fractured and chaotic homes.

I’m a pad brat and I went to a boarding school courtesy of the Boarding School Allowance. All my friends are middle class and comfortable.

I continue to be shocked when I come across the chaotic lives that some people have or had.
I worked for the DWP for a couple of years. Some people end up on the brew because they’ve been dealt a shitty hand. Usually they get themselves out. For others it’s an inherited lifestyle choice. Not necessarily their fault. If your welfare depends on scrounging then, if you’ve got any nounce you’re going to be good at scrounging.

How society breaks that cycle and lifts these people up is a wicked problem.

Having been to some of the shittier parts of the world my sympathy for my people given free education, healthcare and social security can be a thin but it is really in all of our interests to do something.

Because this is Arrse I will mention that occasionally I wonder if a useful solution would be to invite the Luftwaffe to finish the job that we so rudely interrupted in the 40s.
 
I think that ship may have sailed. The current generation of parents we’re discussing were brought up in fractured and chaotic homes.

I’m a pad brat and I went to a boarding school courtesy of the Boarding School Allowance. All my friends are middle class and comfortable.

I continue to be shocked when I come across the chaotic lives that some people have or had.
I worked for the DWP for a couple of years. Some people end up on the brew because they’ve been dealt a shitty hand. Usually they get themselves out. For others it’s an inherited lifestyle choice. Not necessarily their fault. If your welfare depends on scrounging then, if you’ve got any nounce you’re going to be good at scrounging.

How society breaks that cycle and lifts these people up is a wicked problem.

Having been to some of the shittier parts of the world my sympathy for my people given free education, healthcare and social security can be a thin but it is really in all of our interests to do something.

Because this is Arrse I will mention that occasionally I wonder if a useful solution would be to invite the Luftwaffe to finish the job that we so rudely interrupted in the 40s.
Extremely easy solution - cut the umbilical cord. They will learn pretty quickly.
 

BuggerAll

LE
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Extremely easy solution - cut the umbilical cord. They will learn pretty quickly.

They become feral and cause problems for all of us not least, as Stacker mentions, some idiots think the solution is socialism.

I’m not really advocating allowing the Luftwaffe to get in some much needed practise, as attractive as that option may appear, but something needs to be done. It costs us all. The wasted treasure that goes to keep them. The misery they inflict on the decent people around them and the misery they suffer. Very few of them are happy and healthy.
 
Some people end up on the brew because they’ve been dealt a shitty hand. Usually they get themselves out. For others it’s an inherited lifestyle choice. Not necessarily their fault. If your welfare depends on scrounging then, if you’ve got any nounce you’re going to be good at scrounging.
It's not the hand you're dealt, it's how you play it.

Both my parents families came from north Liverpool, working class, Irish stock. Both had 4 siblings. All therefore had very similar childhoods and upbringing. And some hauled themselves out of it - father_mush joined the Customs after national service and retired as Deputy Collector, Northern Region. Others didn't - uncle_mush became a career burglar and yet even his 6 children went in different directions; one becoming a drug dealer and part time gangster, another making it to Uni and now runs a manufacturing business with a £100M+ turnover.
 

BuggerAll

LE
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It's not the hand you're dealt, it's how you play it.

Both my parents families came from north Liverpool, working class, Irish stock. Both had 4 siblings. All therefore had very similar childhoods and upbringing. And some hauled themselves out of it - father_mush joined the Customs after national service and retired as Deputy Collector, Northern Region. Others didn't - uncle_mush became a career burglar and yet even his 6 children went in different directions; one becoming a drug dealer and part time gangster, another making it to Uni and now runs a manufacturing business with a £100M+ turnover.
I’d like to take a lot of the ‘victims’ of capitalism to Kenya or Sierra Leone and ask them which part of ‘their lives and opportunities in the UK is an excuse for their behaviour?’
 
Easy solution - all Red or Yellow voters get a free kg of pure heroin and one big fuckoff syringe.

Darwin would approve.

Bogsy will be rich supplying all the pure stuff
 
I’d like to take a lot of the ‘victims’ of capitalism to Kenya or Sierra Leone and ask them which part of ‘their lives and opportunities in the UK is an excuse for their behaviour?’
That is easy! Once your basic needs have been catered for, you have lots more time for jiggery-pokery. If, however, all your days are taken up with just surviving then you have no time for that sort of nonsense.
 
I know two. Each of them have four kids from three different blokes (Seems to be a template) and have not worked a day since their late teens.

Early teens in shithole estates here. A guy I know is mid-40s, has 4 kids by three slappers and has NEVER worked. And he's proud of that fact.
 
Early teens in shithole estates here. A guy I know is mid-40s, has 4 kids by three slappers and has NEVER worked. And he's proud of that fact.
Simple solution is make him sign a disclaimer saying "My children are my pension." and he can depend on them for his needs in his later years. Disability, or any other special needs - forget it. Your family will look after you. Let's hope they stuck in at school and became the doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs that can afford to do that.
 

BuggerAll

LE
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Simple solution is make him sign a disclaimer saying "My children are my pension." and he can depend on them for his needs in his later years. Disability, or any other special needs - forget it. Your family will look after you. Let's hope they stuck in at school and became the doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs that can afford to do that.
That’s just an invitation for him to turn them into criminals.
 
Let’s give Liverpool to Wales then make Wales independent. Problem sorted.

Well Liverpool has at least once held the eistfed... Icedbed... erm, that Welsh music operatic singing competition.

As an aside I have Cousins who emigrated to Canada as kids (we are talking 30 odd years ago now). One of them nearly got the cane for disagreeing with his teacher that Liverpool was not the capital of Ireland.


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