Scottish Yeomanry and The Ayrshire Yeomanry

Afternoon folks,

Is there anyone here who has served or is knowledgeable of the Scottish Yeomanry 1992-1999 and/or the Ayrshire "Earl of Carrick's Own" Yeomanry (Squadron within the Scottish Yeomanry)? The reason I ask is that I've been looking online for information and history of the short lived regiment and it's Ayrshire Yeomanry squadron (still active as a squadron in the SNIY) for a lesson that I am putting together for my 2* cadets. I've been able to find very little information about the Scottish Yeomanry, I've heard that some of them may have been deployed to Bosnia-Herzegovina but I can't confirm it. The information I have all comes from the very little I was taught as a cadet and what I can find online is limited to Wikipedia which tells me absolutely **** all about the regiment other than a list of it's squadrons and a description of it's uniform...

Any information and history about the regiment you could tell me would be of great help and would greatly interest myself as back when I was a cadet we actually wore the cap badge of the Scottish Yeomanry. I've often flirted with the idea of joining the army or reserves and now I am seriously considering joining the SNIY, which would be very fitting as our detachment currently wears their cap badge and back when I was a cadet we wore the cap badge of their precursor.

Thanks again,
Gerry
 
Affiliated to SCOTS DG hence the grey beret. First CO was QDG, second and I believe last was home grown ex A Sqn then OC B.

A was Ayrshire Yeomanry (Earl of Carrick’s Own) based in Ayr and formed from IIRC A Sqn RY.

B was Lanarkshire and Queen’s Own Royal Glasgow Yeomanry based in East Kilbride and formed from the remains of a disbanded RCT unit.

C was North Irish Horse IIRC, based in Cupar, can‘t remember what the lineage was.

HQ was in Dreghorn Bks, Edinburgh.

As a start up unit each Sabre Sqn had a Trg Officer detached to them from SCOTS DG as well as the usual S/Sgt PSI also from SCOTS DG with the exception of B which was a 4 RTR slot for PSI. I believe Trg Maj was also an RTR slot, certainly the first one was. Adjutant was also SCOTS DG detached. The first tranche of PSIs were all Sigs specialists.

Equipped with stripped down land rovers referred to as Dougals as the chicken wire covered with scrim made them look like the Magic Roundabout character. As they were the land rovers nobody else wanted, they were about as much use as Dougal. Many were civi ones with 12v electrics rather than the mil standard 24v.

Comms wise they use Clansman 320 HF sets which were also crap. It wasn’t unusual to be able to talk to a guy in Cyprus but not to the guy 100 yds down the road (HF is a bastard full stop). They were also equipped with some sort of phone thing that patched into civil comms with the police etc and the role was mixed Recce and Military Aid To Civil Powers (MACP). I forget the name of the system but it was, surprisingly, crap. I don’t think they survived long enough to re role as MBT BCR Crew as other Yeomanry units became.

TAOR was Scotland. All of it.

I don’t think they ever got beyond a cap badge in terms of uniform identity. Initially all ranks wore the RAC Clenched Fist as a cap badge, ORs in metal, Officers in cloth with silver wire embroidery. It was a neat throwback to WW2 which I believe was the last time it had been used. The first CO put his heart and soul into raising the Regt‘s profile (we all did) and eventually got a cap badge approved. It was the Scottish Lion Rampant and Crossed Lances again in metal / fabric rank dependent. It looked good.

For all that, as someone who was there quite literally on Day 1, it was a fun unit that worked bloody hard and played even harder.

All of the above open to correction on the grounds of advancing age on my part.
 
To add, this thread probably belongs in the RAC section of the Arms chunk of the site so if it goes missing, one of the Mods will probably have moved it there.
 

LD17

MIA
Affiliated to SCOTS DG hence the grey beret. First CO was QDG, second and I believe last was home grown ex A Sqn then OC B.

A was Ayrshire Yeomanry (Earl of Carrick’s Own) based in Ayr and formed from IIRC A Sqn RY.

B was Lanarkshire and Queen’s Own Royal Glasgow Yeomanry based in East Kilbride and formed from the remains of a disbanded RCT unit.

C was North Irish Horse IIRC, based in Cupar, can‘t remember what the lineage was.

HQ was in Dreghorn Bks, Edinburgh.

As a start up unit each Sabre Sqn had a Trg Officer detached to them from SCOTS DG as well as the usual S/Sgt PSI also from SCOTS DG with the exception of B which was a 4 RTR slot for PSI. I believe Trg Maj was also an RTR slot, certainly the first one was. Adjutant was also SCOTS DG detached. The first tranche of PSIs were all Sigs specialists.

Equipped with stripped down land rovers referred to as Dougals as the chicken wire covered with scrim made them look like the Magic Roundabout character. As they were the land rovers nobody else wanted, they were about as much use as Dougal. Many were civi ones with 12v electrics rather than the mil standard 24v.

Comms wise they use Clansman 320 HF sets which were also crap. It wasn’t unusual to be able to talk to a guy in Cyprus but not to the guy 100 yds down the road (HF is a bastard full stop). They were also equipped with some sort of phone thing that patched into civil comms with the police etc and the role was mixed Recce and Military Aid To Civil Powers (MACP). I forget the name of the system but it was, surprisingly, crap. I don’t think they survived long enough to re role as MBT BCR Crew as other Yeomanry units became.

TAOR was Scotland. All of it.

I don’t think they ever got beyond a cap badge in terms of uniform identity. Initially all ranks wore the RAC Clenched Fist as a cap badge, ORs in metal, Officers in cloth with silver wire embroidery. It was a neat throwback to WW2 which I believe was the last time it had been used. The first CO put his heart and soul into raising the Regt‘s profile (we all did) and eventually got a cap badge approved. It was the Scottish Lion Rampant and Crossed Lances again in metal / fabric rank dependent. It looked good.

For all that, as someone who was there quite literally on Day 1, it was a fun unit that worked bloody hard and played even harder.

All of the above open to correction on the grounds of advancing age on my part.
@Toastie
Just to be pendantic, C Sqn was Fife & Forfar Yeomanry/Scottish Horse (a late 50’s amalgamation) at Cupar also from a disbanded RCT Sqn.
 
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Boxy

GCM
Pm me if you want, I can definitely confirm some went to Bosnia, I was one of them
 

LD17

MIA
Afternoon folks,

Is there anyone here who has served or is knowledgeable of the Scottish Yeomanry 1992-1999 and/or the Ayrshire "Earl of Carrick's Own" Yeomanry (Squadron within the Scottish Yeomanry)? The reason I ask is that I've been looking online for information and history of the short lived regiment and it's Ayrshire Yeomanry squadron (still active as a squadron in the SNIY) for a lesson that I am putting together for my 2* cadets. I've been able to find very little information about the Scottish Yeomanry, I've heard that some of them may have been deployed to Bosnia-Herzegovina but I can't confirm it. The information I have all comes from the very little I was taught as a cadet and what I can find online is limited to Wikipedia which tells me absolutely **** all about the regiment other than a list of it's squadrons and a description of it's uniform...

Any information and history about the regiment you could tell me would be of great help and would greatly interest myself as back when I was a cadet we actually wore the cap badge of the Scottish Yeomanry. I've often flirted with the idea of joining the army or reserves and now I am seriously considering joining the SNIY, which would be very fitting as our detachment currently wears their cap badge and back when I was a cadet we wore the cap badge of their precursor.

Thanks again,
Gerry
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Boxy

GCM
@Toastie
Just to be pendantic, C Sqn was Scottish Horse/Fife & Forfar Yeomanry (a late 50’s amalgamation) at Cupar also from a disbanded RCT Sqn.
As was the East Kilbride Sqn… HQ Sqn wasn’t in Dreghorn, it was next door to Redford in Inchdewer? House, now the Piping School and is now part of Redford Barracks
And I wouldn’t say affiliated per se, as SNIY is currently partnered with them as both are in the Light Cav role
 
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Corrections to my above are correct now I’ve had the memory jog.
 
Affiliated to SCOTS DG hence the grey beret. First CO was QDG, second and I believe last was home grown ex A Sqn then OC B.

A was Ayrshire Yeomanry (Earl of Carrick’s Own) based in Ayr and formed from IIRC A Sqn RY.

B was Lanarkshire and Queen’s Own Royal Glasgow Yeomanry based in East Kilbride and formed from the remains of a disbanded RCT unit.

C was North Irish Horse IIRC, based in Cupar, can‘t remember what the lineage was.

HQ was in Dreghorn Bks, Edinburgh.

As a start up unit each Sabre Sqn had a Trg Officer detached to them from SCOTS DG as well as the usual S/Sgt PSI also from SCOTS DG with the exception of B which was a 4 RTR slot for PSI. I believe Trg Maj was also an RTR slot, certainly the first one was. Adjutant was also SCOTS DG detached. The first tranche of PSIs were all Sigs specialists.

Equipped with stripped down land rovers referred to as Dougals as the chicken wire covered with scrim made them look like the Magic Roundabout character. As they were the land rovers nobody else wanted, they were about as much use as Dougal. Many were civi ones with 12v electrics rather than the mil standard 24v.

Comms wise they use Clansman 320 HF sets which were also crap. It wasn’t unusual to be able to talk to a guy in Cyprus but not to the guy 100 yds down the road (HF is a bastard full stop). They were also equipped with some sort of phone thing that patched into civil comms with the police etc and the role was mixed Recce and Military Aid To Civil Powers (MACP). I forget the name of the system but it was, surprisingly, crap. I don’t think they survived long enough to re role as MBT BCR Crew as other Yeomanry units became.

TAOR was Scotland. All of it.

I don’t think they ever got beyond a cap badge in terms of uniform identity. Initially all ranks wore the RAC Clenched Fist as a cap badge, ORs in metal, Officers in cloth with silver wire embroidery. It was a neat throwback to WW2 which I believe was the last time it had been used. The first CO put his heart and soul into raising the Regt‘s profile (we all did) and eventually got a cap badge approved. It was the Scottish Lion Rampant and Crossed Lances again in metal / fabric rank dependent. It looked good.

For all that, as someone who was there quite literally on Day 1, it was a fun unit that worked bloody hard and played even harder.

All of the above open to correction on the grounds of advancing age on my part

Cheers for the info! I know the Scottish Yeomanry was closely linked with the SCOTS DG, did they train together often? And did the Scottish Yeomanry have any other roles other than recce?
 

Boxy

GCM
Cheers for the info! I know the Scottish Yeomanry was closely linked with the SCOTS DG, did they train together often? And did the Scottish Yeomanry have any other roles other than recce?
Not while I was with them, mainly due to them being in Tanks (at the time) and having a completely different role, our actual Sqn affiliated Regt was the HCR as the roles were similar.

We did however have a few Scots DG PSIs but moved on to Recce Regt PSIs, LD, QDG & HCR

As to other roles, apart from the MACA none that I was aware of
 
Afternoon folks,

Is there anyone here who has served or is knowledgeable of the Scottish Yeomanry 1992-1999 and/or the Ayrshire "Earl of Carrick's Own" Yeomanry (Squadron within the Scottish Yeomanry)? The reason I ask is that I've been looking online for information and history of the short lived regiment and it's Ayrshire Yeomanry squadron (still active as a squadron in the SNIY) for a lesson that I am putting together for my 2* cadets. I've been able to find very little information about the Scottish Yeomanry, I've heard that some of them may have been deployed to Bosnia-Herzegovina but I can't confirm it. The information I have all comes from the very little I was taught as a cadet and what I can find online is limited to Wikipedia which tells me absolutely **** all about the regiment other than a list of it's squadrons and a description of it's uniform...

Any information and history about the regiment you could tell me would be of great help and would greatly interest myself as back when I was a cadet we actually wore the cap badge of the Scottish Yeomanry. I've often flirted with the idea of joining the army or reserves and now I am seriously considering joining the SNIY, which would be very fitting as our detachment currently wears their cap badge and back when I was a cadet we wore the cap badge of their precursor.

Thanks again,
Gerry
As did I. What years? I'm assuming you were in EK?
 
Affiliated to SCOTS DG hence the grey beret. First CO was QDG, second and I believe last was home grown ex A Sqn then OC B.

A was Ayrshire Yeomanry (Earl of Carrick’s Own) based in Ayr and formed from IIRC A Sqn RY.

B was Lanarkshire and Queen’s Own Royal Glasgow Yeomanry based in East Kilbride and formed from the remains of a disbanded RCT unit.

C was North Irish Horse IIRC, based in Cupar, can‘t remember what the lineage was.

HQ was in Dreghorn Bks, Edinburgh.

As a start up unit each Sabre Sqn had a Trg Officer detached to them from SCOTS DG as well as the usual S/Sgt PSI also from SCOTS DG with the exception of B which was a 4 RTR slot for PSI. I believe Trg Maj was also an RTR slot, certainly the first one was. Adjutant was also SCOTS DG detached. The first tranche of PSIs were all Sigs specialists.

Equipped with stripped down land rovers referred to as Dougals as the chicken wire covered with scrim made them look like the Magic Roundabout character. As they were the land rovers nobody else wanted, they were about as much use as Dougal. Many were civi ones with 12v electrics rather than the mil standard 24v.

Comms wise they use Clansman 320 HF sets which were also crap. It wasn’t unusual to be able to talk to a guy in Cyprus but not to the guy 100 yds down the road (HF is a bastard full stop). They were also equipped with some sort of phone thing that patched into civil comms with the police etc and the role was mixed Recce and Military Aid To Civil Powers (MACP). I forget the name of the system but it was, surprisingly, crap. I don’t think they survived long enough to re role as MBT BCR Crew as other Yeomanry units became.

TAOR was Scotland. All of it.

I don’t think they ever got beyond a cap badge in terms of uniform identity. Initially all ranks wore the RAC Clenched Fist as a cap badge, ORs in metal, Officers in cloth with silver wire embroidery. It was a neat throwback to WW2 which I believe was the last time it had been used. The first CO put his heart and soul into raising the Regt‘s profile (we all did) and eventually got a cap badge approved. It was the Scottish Lion Rampant and Crossed Lances again in metal / fabric rank dependent. It looked good.

For all that, as someone who was there quite literally on Day 1, it was a fun unit that worked bloody hard and played even harder.

All of the above open to correction on the grounds of advancing age on my part.
Still got one in my wee memory shoebox.
 

Boxy

GCM
“A was Ayrshire Yeomanry (Earl of Carrick’s Own) based in Ayr and formed from IIRC A Sqn RY.”

I missed this bit of mistaken memory first time around, A Sqn Scots Yeo was not formed from the RY, it just rebadged from the QOY, to whom it went back to on absorption, it was never an amalgamation
 
Well after my time then. I was an army cadet badged Scottish Yeomanry in East Kilbride circa 97-99.

ETA: That makes me feel old saying that....
I was Girvan detachment. Belmont detachment (who are based in Ayr Squadron's centre) also wore the cap badge, other than that I wasn't aware there were other detachments that wore the Scottish Yeomanry cap badge.
 

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