Scottish Politics Thread

[Dredd]

I thought we had to post in English on this forum?

Naw. Where d'ye think that min? It's oor playground ya rocket so gerrit right up ye, you tube. And take wee sack wi' ya, the soft southern shandy drinker.

Translation - Did you?

 

[JimmySigTA]

Yousaf says he was not misled by Matheson over £11k iPad bill

On Tuesday Michael Matheson told First Minister Humza Yousaf his sons racked up the £11,000 bill, not parliamentary work.

www.bbc.co.uk

Did he share passwords?

 

[Fang_Farrier]

Did he share passwords?

Allegedly he used the iPad as a hotspot so they had no direct access.

However this does mean that he had to log onto the iPad and allow them said direct access so can not deny that he knew that they were accessing the internet via a parliamentary SIM card for non parliamentary business

 

[Diogenes' limp]

All this deflection in the press is just noise only two things count. And they have apparently already been established and admitted to.

1. The ipad was used for non-government, i.e. wholly private purposes and the custodian knew it.
2. Knowing that to be true, he attempted to defraud the public purse.

Ends.

 

[Fang_Farrier]

All this deflection in the press is just noise only two things count. And they have apparently already been established and admitted to.

1. The ipad was used for non-government, i.e. wholly private purposes and the custodian knew it.
2. Knowing that to be true, he attempted to defraud the public purse.

Ends.

You forget one thing.

This occurred in January and it is now November.

In the interim, although he was aware of the large bill run up on his parliamentary SIM card, he only offered to repay 3k of it.

And the term repay is erroneous, as it was merely a paper exercise of shifting some of the amount accrued from the parliamentary account (automatically paid by Scotgov) to an amount recouped from his expenses. So the 3k was never actually coming from his own pocket.

He was quite happy for nearly a year to sit quietly and say absolutely nothing about how he was the beneficiary of services worth 11k to which he was not entitled.

One could say a wrongful deception intended to result in financial gain. Now I wonder what that description fits.

 

[Fang_Farrier]

 

[Diogenes' limp]

You forget one thing.

This occurred in January and it is now November.

In the interim, although he was aware of the large bill run up on his parliamentary SIM card, he only offered to repay 3k of it.

And the term repay is erroneous, as it was merely a paper exercise of shifting some of the amount accrued from the parliamentary account (automatically paid by Scotgov) to an amount recouped from his expenses. So the 3k was never actually coming from his own pocket.

He was quite happy for nearly a year to sit quietly and say absolutely nothing about how he was the beneficiary of services worth 11k to which he was not entitled.

One could say a wrongful deception intended to result in financial gain. Now I wonder what that description fits.



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We are in violent agreement. But it wasn't forgotten.

Quote ' he attempted to defraud the public purse'.

My post points to the top and bottom of the case, yours to the prosecution building evidence to prove the case, both act against the smokescreen and deflections of the defence.

 

[brettarider]

You forget one thing.

This occurred in January and it is now November.

In the interim, although he was aware of the large bill run up on his parliamentary SIM card, he only offered to repay 3k of it.

And the term repay is erroneous, as it was merely a paper exercise of shifting some of the amount accrued from the parliamentary account (automatically paid by Scotgov) to an amount recouped from his expenses. So the 3k was never actually coming from his own pocket.

He was quite happy for nearly a year to sit quietly and say absolutely nothing about how he was the beneficiary of services worth 11k to which he was not entitled.

One could say a wrongful deception intended to result in financial gain. Now I wonder what that description fits.



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I'd go as far to say he (and others) should be subject to the same investigations and value and standards of those employed by the public purse that have a thread on it's own in the int cell

People have done time for falsey claiming benefits to a lesser sum than this crook has chanced his arm with.

 

[Mick9abf]

Allegedly he used the iPad as a hotspot so they had no direct access.

However this does mean that he had to log onto the iPad and allow them said direct access so can not deny that he knew that they were accessing the internet via a parliamentary SIM card for non parliamentary business

All this deflection in the press is just noise only two things count. And they have apparently already been established and admitted to.

1. The ipad was used for non-government, i.e. wholly private purposes and the custodian knew it.
2. Knowing that to be true, he attempted to defraud the public purse.

Ends.

You forget one thing.

This occurred in January and it is now November.

In the interim, although he was aware of the large bill run up on his parliamentary SIM card, he only offered to repay 3k of it.

And the term repay is erroneous, as it was merely a paper exercise of shifting some of the amount accrued from the parliamentary account (automatically paid by Scotgov) to an amount recouped from his expenses. So the 3k was never actually coming from his own pocket.

He was quite happy for nearly a year to sit quietly and say absolutely nothing about how he was the beneficiary of services worth 11k to which he was not entitled.

One could say a wrongful deception intended to result in financial gain. Now I wonder what that description fits.



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Looking at it objectively it is simply unfeasible to see how his position remains tenable. Same goes for Useless since he backed him and effectively still does.

Unfortunately the reality is we’re in Scotland where the incumbent SG believe they are above reproach and anyone, let alone the pesky electorate, questioning them is a minor inconvenience which is to be ignored, laughable in fact.

 

[Mick9abf]

'My life has changed forever': Humza Yousaf's mother-in-law describes escape from Gaza

The first minister's mother-in-law was visiting family in Gaza when the conflict began last month. After two failed attempts, she was able to enter Egypt via the Rafah Border Crossing on 3 November.

news.sky.com

Interesting quote from Useless’s wife Nadia at the end which I note was dropped off the BBC cut and paste of the article.

“The family are calling for a full ceasefire and a two-state solution.

But Nadia stated that Palestine is not a "world player". She added: "We don't really have any power. So, it's now up to other governments. We've seen that through Qatar, we've seen that through the UK and the US, trying to have those conversations.

"But actually, what would that even look like?

"My mind, to be honest, on a personal level, my mind can't go forward. I'm stuck day by day that I don't know if my family are going to live and whether Palestine's going to exist.

"For me to think about what happens after the war when we're not hearing of a ceasefire, my life can't go forward because it seems, it feels like, we're being erased from the world."

While she is of course entitled to her own opinion, last time I looked Nadia was a Dundee councillor I’m slightly confused with her choice of words and to which country she is perhaps ‘loyal’ to.

Of course you could have dual citizenship and be somewhere in the middle but this strikes me as someone in a position of power who could be deemed a security risk to the U.K. through her, her family and husbands position.

I would suspect that in these circumstances it would be more beneficial to not make statements like that.

 

[PortreeKid2]

Allegedly he used the iPad as a hotspot so they had no direct access.

Scratches head

I readily admit that I am a conehead when it comes to technology - But I use my phone as a.hotspot for my IPAD on an almost daily basis, and have never had a bill, never mind a bill of £11 k

The only time I get a bill is when I direct dial the UK - Urgent business to deal with.

Neither am I having it cost £11k to watch a football match - I think a breakdown of the £11k is required to see exactly what pornsites were being accessed*

* Cough cough -It might help others from inadvertently getting stung with an £11k bill

 

[Fang_Farrier]

Scratches head

I readily admit that I am a conehead when it comes to technology - But I use my phone as a.hotspot for my IPAD on an almost daily basis, and have never had a bill, never mind a bill of £11 k

The only time I get a bill is when I direct dial the UK - Urgent business to deal with.

Neither am I having it cost £11k to watch a football match - I think a breakdown of the £11k is required to see exactly what pornsites were being accessed*

* Cough cough -It might help others from inadvertently getting stung with an £11k bill

There's a breakdown somewhere, that's how the football was identified as the main culprit due to the timing.

Did hear something on radio about it being an older SIM with a fairly restricted contract aa it was intended for parliamentary use ie internal UK not overseas

 

[Simmerit]

Not been in here for a while. How’s the mood music in Jockland, and what’s happening with the poison dwarf?

 

[Fang_Farrier]

Not been in here for a while. How’s the mood music in Jockland, and what’s happening with the poison dwarf?

In a nutshell, Tories would still appear to be enemy number 1, so votes will either go to SNP or SLab.

And as to the exFM, nothing doing.
Current FM, doing nothing.

 

[PortreeKid2]

There's a breakdown somewhere, that's how the football was identified as the main culprit due to the timing.

Fairy. Nuff - Not up to speed on these things, but I have seen football matches advertised for £9.99, and there are plenty of places where you can watch any sports for free.

Neither am I up to speed on roaming charges - But most people would buy a local sim data package rather than fork out on international roaming charges.

Perhaps that was the issue - He thought he wouldn't be forking out and the taxpayer would foot the bill.

Just checked with my provider - 10GB world travel sim £15