Scottish Politics Thread

FHA

LE
oh dear! - Broon really cant help himself, yesterday rejoin the EU and today support BLM terrorism


Broon Lives Matter.

Supercar driving millionaires prostrating to anti capitalists. Up there with a certain F1 driver tweeting about climate change from his speedboat.
 
According to The Jockman the SG is going to encourage local authorities to introduce Workplace parking levies. This is quire the most awful idea which is probably why in England only one place has introduced it. When will they ever learn?
 
According to The Jockman the SG is going to encourage local authorities to introduce Workplace parking levies. This is quire the most awful idea which is probably why in England only one place has introduced it. When will they ever learn?

this has been on the cards now for at least 12 months - the question is, what power would the council have over a premise owned by a company ? and will employees put up with it because we all know that the company will take the money of the employee! - my place doesn't have enough parking as it is so its a bit of a free for all - what happens if i get levied but cant get a parking spot? - socialists never think through their idiotic suggestions
 

giatttt

War Hero
According to The Jockman the SG is going to encourage local authorities to introduce Workplace parking levies. This is quire the most awful idea which is probably why in England only one place has introduced it. When will they ever learn?
My designated place of work is my home, does that mean I'll have to pay for the bit of my drive my car sits on?
 
this has been on the cards now for at least 12 months - the question is, what power would the council have over a premise owned by a company ? and will employees put up with it because we all know that the company will take the money of the employee! - my place doesn't have enough parking as it is so its a bit of a free for all - what happens if i get levied but cant get a parking spot? - socialists never think through their idiotic suggestions
Your company will have to declare how many spaces there are, this will be checked by the Local Authority, they will then have to pay the LA for those spaces. It will be then up to your company to manage those spaces and how they are paid for. Unformed LA personnel (in Nottingham) will check compliance but many employees will probably just park in the local streets. Difficulties will also come from Hospitals, schools and other NHS/LA properties whether to charge or not.
It would be far better if they used the carrot and not the stick, give grants to firms who put EV charging points in their car parks. Many firms may think this is too much hassle and just plough up their car parks.

ETA: Nottingham were going to charge £424 per space per year for firms with over 11 spaces although they have relaxed some rules due to Covid. Money raised to be ringfenced (remember that phrase SNP?) for transport improvements.
 
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offog

LE
this has been on the cards now for at least 12 months - the question is, what power would the council have over a premise owned by a company ? and will employees put up with it because we all know that the company will take the money of the employee! - my place doesn't have enough parking as it is so its a bit of a free for all - what happens if i get levied but cant get a parking spot? - socialists never think through their idiotic suggestions
I have a feeling this was a green party requirements and the SNP had to look at it because they needed the green votes. I wonder if Holyrood will also have to pay for their underground parking.
 
Your company will have to declare how many spaces there are, this will be checked by the Local Authority, they will then have to pay the LA for those spaces. It will be then up to your company to manage those spaces and how they are paid for. Unformed LA personnel (in Nottingham) will check compliance but many employees will probably just park in the local streets. Difficulties will also come from Hospitals, schools and other NHS/LA properties whether to charge or not.
It would be far better if they used the carrot and not the stick, give grants to firms who put EV charging points in their car parks. Many firms may think this is too much hassle and just plough up their car parks.

ETA: Nottingham were going to charge £424 per space per year for firms with over 11 spaces although they have relaxed some rules due to Covid. Money raised to be ringfenced (remember that phrase SNP?) for transport improvements.
I hear you mate but I think in practise it will be completely unworkable - just too many variables and incredibly difficult for the company to administer unless it decides to take on the costs in full, in which case it is just another tax - we all know that theSNP will do
Precisely zero to improve the public transport service with any cash raised and in many cases that won’t go anywhere near the businesses - it’s a fight that is just not worth having just at a time when we need people to have every incentive to get back to work and get the recovery started - especially in Scotland where our gdp is so far behind the expenditure
 
I hear you mate but I think in practise it will be completely unworkable - just too many variables and incredibly difficult for the company to administer unless it decides to take on the costs in full, in which case it is just another tax - we all know that theSNP will do
Precisely zero to improve the public transport service with any cash raised and in many cases that won’t go anywhere near the businesses - it’s a fight that is just not worth having just at a time when we need people to have every incentive to get back to work and get the recovery started - especially in Scotland where our gdp is so far behind the expenditure
I agree with you but easy to admin, you car reg no on space A5, that’s your space, charge removed from your salary.
it’s a Green Party thing and Nicola needs their votes.
But think of Barracks parking, livers in won’t pay as it is their home, pads should pay they’re commuters.
 

offog

LE
I hear you mate but I think in practise it will be completely unworkable - just too many variables and incredibly difficult for the company to administer unless it decides to take on the costs in full, in which case it is just another tax - we all know that theSNP will do
Precisely zero to improve the public transport service with any cash raised and in many cases that won’t go anywhere near the businesses - it’s a fight that is just not worth having just at a time when we need people to have every incentive to get back to work and get the recovery started - especially in Scotland where our gdp is so far behind the expenditure
I spent a number of days in Edinburgh and used the buses and was very impressed. When I needed to go and look at a flat my son was thinking about, it was very simple and quick. A google on the flats location cross referenced with the time of the viewing and asked for direction and google gave time of bus and which buses I could use to get there. Always on time and clean.

Now several years latter and covid he has been working from his flat like the rest of the 500+ staff (he's only got a 1 bed so can get a bit crowded at times). Car park is empty except for those who must go into work on the odd day. They are unlikely to go back to how it was except for those who need a break from the kids. It is the same for my daughter in York.

I think this is an idea that circumstances have overtaken and in many cases the need for parking in town has gone.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Your company will have to declare how many spaces there are, this will be checked by the Local Authority, they will then have to pay the LA for those spaces. It will be then up to your company to manage those spaces and how they are paid for. Unformed LA personnel (in Nottingham) will check compliance but many employees will probably just park in the local streets. Difficulties will also come from Hospitals, schools and other NHS/LA properties whether to charge or not.
It would be far better if they used the carrot and not the stick, give grants to firms who put EV charging points in their car parks. Many firms may think this is too much hassle and just plough up their car parks.

ETA: Nottingham were going to charge £424 per space per year for firms with over 11 spaces although they have relaxed some rules due to Covid. Money raised to be ringfenced (remember that phrase SNP?) for transport improvements.


Been discussed a fair few times before.
Pretty sure that the list of exemptions was quite long and includes education and health facilities as well as police, council and a host of others
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Does that make it any better?

Not any more than it was the last three times it was discussed.

But feel free to have the conversation again.

But in summary.

Difficult to implement.
Will punish low paid.
Folk will just park elsewhere.
Not enough parking anywhere anyway.
Etc etc
 

homeworker

War Hero
Not any more than it was the last three times it was discussed.

But feel free to have the conversation again.

But in summary.

Difficult to implement.
Will punish low paid.
Folk will just park elsewhere.
Not enough parking anywhere anyway.
Etc etc
You could also add that the number of exceptions (SHNS, politicians, local council employees, etc. etc. etc.) will make it completely pointless.
 
Not any more than it was the last three times it was discussed.

But feel free to have the conversation again.

But in summary.

Difficult to implement.
Will punish low paid.
Folk will just park elsewhere.
Not enough parking anywhere anyway.
Etc etc
The reason it was brought up again was the SG have started to mention it again. But I agree with you, it is another Green/SNP bad idea but when did that ever stop them?
 

The futures green not orange onest ;)
More lunacy from ECC to meet drop in the ocean ‘targets’.

I would hazard a guess that if they hadn’t completely screwed up the transport system in the city centre in the late 90’s/early 00’s causing roads to be closed for most users to allow for a half arrsed over budget attempt at a tram system (which they binned in the 50’s for good reason), that the amount of cars sitting idling in traffic in the biblically stupid one way system introduced in and around Princes Street the traffic present wouldn’t be producing as much pollution as they would be moving instead of sitting at the numerous junctions idling and all trying to funnel round what was a 5 minute trip back in the day in most traffic to a 15 minute trip last time I was there.
 
More lunacy from ECC to meet drop in the ocean ‘targets’.

I would hazard a guess that if they hadn’t completely screwed up the transport system in the city centre in the late 90’s/early 00’s causing roads to be closed for most users to allow for a half arrsed over budget attempt at a tram system (which they binned in the 50’s for good reason), that the amount of cars sitting idling in traffic in the biblically stupid one way system introduced in and around Princes Street the traffic present wouldn’t be producing as much pollution as they would be moving instead of sitting at the numerous junctions idling and all trying to funnel round what was a 5 minute trip back in the day in most traffic to a 15 minute trip last time I was there.
Another excuse not to go into the city centre.
 
More lunacy from ECC to meet drop in the ocean ‘targets’.

I would hazard a guess that if they hadn’t completely screwed up the transport system in the city centre in the late 90’s/early 00’s causing roads to be closed for most users to allow for a half arrsed over budget attempt at a tram system (which they binned in the 50’s for good reason), that the amount of cars sitting idling in traffic in the biblically stupid one way system introduced in and around Princes Street the traffic present wouldn’t be producing as much pollution as they would be moving instead of sitting at the numerous junctions idling and all trying to funnel round what was a 5 minute trip back in the day in most traffic to a 15 minute trip last time I was there.

if they had their way and most cars were taken off the road can you imagine just how many buses and trains you would need to cover it! - at some point the green nutters need to recognise the size of the population and how much space and movement it takes - by the way that it includes the need to keep building houses and yes, that means on the green belt as well! - people need somewhere to live

I highly suspect the biggest moaners/protagonists of green pish already live in a nice house, in a leafy suburb and not a tiny flat/house without any inbuilt storage or a garden/driveway to speak off, FFS most new build estates dont even have streets wide enough to allow for a front garden or parking so people are effectively front window to front window and the bin truck cant get down the road without olympic level slaloming!
 
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