Scottish Politics Thread

[exbluejob]

GPs don't work at the weekend.

They are in England, got through a couple of hundred at my Drs surgery.

 

[Truxx]

GPs don't work at the weekend.

Good job there isn't a pandemic or anything.

 

[tiger stacker]

Good job there isn't a pandemic or anything.

Off the ball today had Prof Leitch On good form, pretty sure he explained the rollout timeline in such a way even the green brigade could comprehend

 

[Auld-Yin]

Off the ball today had Prof Leitch On good form, pretty sure he explained the rollout timeline in such a way even the green brigade could comprehend

Leitch has performed brilliantly throughout this outbreak. A sensible and clear explanation of complex scientific issues. Much of the feeling that Nicola is dealing with this so well is down to the Prof. IMO

 

[dun_n_dusted]

IN FULL: This is the SNP’s plan for how to hold an independence referendum

In a new plan for indyref2 – revealed exclusively by The National today – the SNP are set to tell the Prime Minister that he’ll need to take…

www.thenational.scot

Yes, it's from The National, which has as much relevance to reality as Dr Who magazine. This envisages holding, what is in effect, an illegal referendum if SNP/Greens get a majority in May.
What if the Unionist parties get more votes? What if a Unionist dominated Aberdeen council (for example) tell the SG to get scraped and refuse to get involved? It has Mike Russell's name all over it, the man is a political pygmy of astonishingly low levels of gumption so, needless to say it's not exactly the Marshall Plan.

They won't, as it would be an unauthorised referendum and therefore non-binding most Union supporters won't bother their arrses.

 

[tiger stacker]

Leitch has performed brilliantly throughout this outbreak. A sensible and clear explanation of complex scientific issues. Much of the feeling that Nicola is dealing with this so well is down to the Prof. IMO

His explanation of how what and why is said was good, by highlighting the various committees he shows that scotgov isn’t actually playing darts blindfolded

 

[mrboo]

They won't, as it would be an unauthorised referendum and therefore non-binding most Union supporters won't bother their arrses.

But everyone Scotland wants a referendum . I know because the SNP speaks for all of Scotland


Union in crisis as poll reveals voters want referendum on Scottish independence and united Ireland | News | The Sunday Times (thetimes.co.uk)

 

[AfghanAndy]

IN FULL: This is the SNP’s plan for how to hold an independence referendum

In a new plan for indyref2 – revealed exclusively by The National today – the SNP are set to tell the Prime Minister that he’ll need to take…

www.thenational.scot

Yes, it's from The National, which has as much relevance to reality as Dr Who magazine. This envisages holding, what is in effect, an illegal referendum if SNP/Greens get a majority in May.
What if the Unionist parties get more votes? What if a Unionist dominated Aberdeen council (for example) tell the SG to get scraped and refuse to get involved? It has Mike Russell's name all over it, the man is a political pygmy of astonishingly low levels of gumption so, needless to say it's not exactly the Marshall Plan.

Don’t be sensible. Scots are sovereign, unless you go against SNP policy. Self determination can only happen if you happen to self identify with the persons suffering from the cringe. If you don’t, the yiu can’t self determine.

As Scotland Votes on Independence, Shetland Islands Ponder Own Fate

Shetlanders are following the Scottish independence campaign as intently as the rest of the U.K. Some even want another vote soon after—on their own independence from Scotland.

www.google.co.uk

 

[NSP]

The voting age hadn't been reduced to 14 (yet) . The Electoral Register needs to take account of all those who will turn 16 during its (2 year?) lifetime.

Interesting.

In England they send out a "tell us who lives at this address with voting rights" form every twelve months. If you turn eighteen before the next canvas you just go on the council website/'phone the council and apply for a voter registration, as anyone eligible to vote but unregistered can do at any time (although I think there's a cut-off if you want to be sure of being able to vote in an upcoming election - four weeks before polling day, I think it is
.

 

[jagman2]

IN FULL: This is the SNP’s plan for how to hold an independence referendum

In a new plan for indyref2 – revealed exclusively by The National today – the SNP are set to tell the Prime Minister that he’ll need to take…

www.thenational.scot

Yes, it's from The National, which has as much relevance to reality as Dr Who magazine. This envisages holding, what is in effect, an illegal referendum if SNP/Greens get a majority in May.
What if the Unionist parties get more votes? What if a Unionist dominated Aberdeen council (for example) tell the SG to get scraped and refuse to get involved? It has Mike Russell's name all over it, the man is a political pygmy of astonishingly low levels of gumption so, needless to say it's not exactly the Marshall Plan.

Did you spot the glaring great lie in that "roadmap"?

 

[Graculus]

Don’t be sensible. Scots are sovereign, unless you go against SNP policy. Self determination can only happen if you happen to self identify with the persons suffering from the cringe. If you don’t, the yiu can’t self determine.

As Scotland Votes on Independence, Shetland Islands Ponder Own Fate

Shetlanders are following the Scottish independence campaign as intently as the rest of the U.K. Some even want another vote soon after—on their own independence from Scotland.

www.google.co.uk

You'd best hope that this doesn't continue then.

 

[Graculus]

Did you spot the glaring great lie in that "roadmap"?

Lies don't matter any more.

 

[jagman2]

Lies don't matter any more.

Apparently not in the world of the SNP.
It isn't even the routine political spin or vague ambiguity, the SNP are lying to the Scottish electorate

 

[Graculus]

Apparently not in the world of the SNP.
It isn't even the routine political spin or vague ambiguity, the SNP are lying to the Scottish electorate

There has always been an element of it but in what way are the SNP different to the current government in that respect?

 

[AfghanAndy]

There has always been an element of it but in what way are the SNP different to the current government in that respect?

One followed through on a referendum result . The other seems to have ignored two referendum results.

Are you going to be one of these worrying people who are upset that the post brexit Armageddon you predicted hasn’t happened will support the loons in an act of suicide?

 

[jagman2]

There has always been an element of it but in what way are the SNP different to the current government in that respect?

As far as I am aware the current UK Government has yet to present a dubious opinion as a cast iron fact.
Where opinion is presented it is always caveated as such (for those bright enough to understand plain English) usually including words like could or should.
The SNP are not doing that, they are presenting an opinion as fact. Its not just misleading, it is a lie.

 

[Graculus]

One followed through on a referendum result . The other seems to have ignored two referendum results.

I think you'll find that they're responding to the "will of the people"

Are you going to be one of these worrying people who are upset that the post brexit Armageddon you predicted hasn’t happened will support the loons in an act of suicide?

Back to Andy's Adventurous Imagination again. You can't help yourself can you?

I'm a staunch Unionist as you well know. Now, tell me again in what way the current government is different to the SNP in respect of telling huge lies? Which was the question, no your little divergence into 2016.

 

[Info Ops]

We have already discussed and explained that. The apoplectic indignation of the separatists when the BBC even suggested taking the Daily Party Political Propaganda Broadcast Briefing off the telly was a good indication of what it really was, since there was no real need for a daily appearance on a subject that had moved from an emerging national crisis phase into general maintenance and management. The YesNP are extremely adept at their PR (admiration is duly given) and the way they can spin and distort back to the "answer is independence" in every single situation is phenomenal.

What is astonishing is that the local media allow them do this almost unquestioningly, but this is aided and abetted by a poor cohort of opposition figures who find it difficult to counter the strategy in any effective way. And so the lip-service the Party pays to democracy is only for show - like all Nationalist parties the world over (especially those rooted in socialist ideals) they don't believe in it for others, just themselves. So they play at voting and discourse but you must ensure you vote the right way and that the discourse is not to challenge the fundamental concepts in any way. Do so and you will be punished - if not destroyed.

Mrs Murrell has in the main simply copied what was happening in the other areas, although she has led some actions from the front as well, but when she does the following she is very adept at making enough changes to make it appear solely Jockanese, which tricks the unthinking into believing it was all her own work. Very cunning, and as we can see, very effective.

I think what explains this support for Sturgeon, much as it depresses unionists, is that most people here recognise clarity and leadership from her in the pandemic, as opposed to the bumbling fool in No. 10 and his shameful tally of making the UK one of the worst Covid death capitals of the world.

 

[Graculus]

As far as I am aware the current UK Government has yet to present a dubious opinion as a cast iron fact.

You might want to run that by the DUP in respect of checks "There will be no checks on goods from GB to Northern Ireland or from Northern Ireland to GB'" but there are loads of them out there:

'Yes of course it's perfectly true that it would be great to have an app, but no country currently has a functioning track and trace app'.

Where opinion is presented it is always caveated as such (for those bright enough to understand plain English) usually including words like could or should.

See above, they do it all of the time

The SNP are not doing that, they are presenting an opinion as fact. Its not just misleading, it is a lie.

No difference.

 

[Info Ops]

Not looking good for the Union. Really not a question of if but when they pull down their flag.

Union in crisis as polls reveal voters want referendum on Scottish independence and united Ireland

The UK is facing a constitutional crisis that will strain the Union as new polls reveal a majority of voters in Scotland and Northern Ireland want referendums on the break-up of Britain.A four-country

www.thetimes.co.uk

Union crisis as new poll shows voters want Scots independence & united Ireland

THE union is facing a crisis as new polls show Scots want independence and Northern Ireland voters are demanding a united Ireland. The poll showing Scotland would vote for independence by 52 per ce…

www.thescottishsun.co.uk