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One of the more telling comments, which he reinforces later in the article, was this quote early on:



As we all know, the true end-game for any Socialist / Communist political group is for there to be a One Party State, who will smile upon all with their munificent benevolence. And every time, the populace falls into line either because of belief in the cause, or really because of fear not to be seen to believe because of the punishments that will inevitably follow. And not necessarily from the State itself, but from those who are desperate to show the State how attuned they are to the Solution to Our Problems.

And yet I do not see any real hope in there being much of a dent in their stranglehold in May, even when all the signs of the Venezuela of the North are all there for anyone to see.

As I always like to quote, there is an old proverb (warning) - Be careful what you wish for, as it might just come true.
They already have their one party state and are using it to push through bad legislation. There's no fixing this. The SNP have been allowed to run riot and control the narrative to the point that their truth is the only truth. Have a look at some of those Faceache comments above and tell me those folk aren't brainwashed idiots? If you have some time to spare and want to peer into the abyss of absolute insanity, check out some of the independence groups. It's genuinely horrifying.
 
They really have not been the Scottish National Party for years. More like the Scottish WehatetheEnglish Party.

The current SNP would align with any country as long as they are not English - and would have to!
You voted for independence didn't you? You and Kevin.....

:D
 
Only just noticed it via BBC.. Low income families will receive payments of £100 before Christmas, under a new scheme to be announced by Nicola Sturgeon. Now that could be another costly exercise. Must be an unshaken money tree somewhere up there. :cool:
 
Well we are screwed then. SNP will get their votes. Labour will get theirs and the Tories will get theirs and we’ll either get Independence shoved down our throats or they continue to harp on about it, all the while ignoring the actual running of the country and letting all the areas they are responsible for go even more to ruin.

I still think it’s possible to convince sufficient people to hold their noses and vote Labour. More than to vote Conservative and sufficient to make the point to the SNP. Depends how it’s done though I suppose.
Scotland is the home of tactical voting...if parties can't cooperate in order to pick up votes then they don't deserver them frankly.
 
I'm not a particular fan of Piers Morgan , but in all fairness to him , he tore Wee Nippy a new one this morning , simply by asking her whether there was going to be a hard border with England post independence .
It can be replayed on ITV Hub
 
They already have their one party state and are using it to push through bad legislation. There's no fixing this. The SNP have been allowed to run riot and control the narrative to the point that their truth is the only truth. Have a look at some of those Faceache comments above and tell me those folk aren't brainwashed idiots? If you have some time to spare and want to peer into the abyss of absolute insanity, check out some of the independence groups. It's genuinely horrifying.
I used to troll the SNP Faceache page when I was bored (yes, childish, I know, but it was funny), but it was just too easy. Even replying to them with the actual facts and truth, they didn't want to see it. It's a genuinely horrifying look into the brainwashed psyche when you go on to any of these Cult pages.
You can put the evidence in front of them, and they'll always have an opposing answer to it, no matter how ridiculous it sounds, eg. See the Andrew Marr / Sturgeon interview for a perfect example.
 

bestri10

Old-Salt
Only just noticed it via BBC.. Low income families will receive payments of £100 before Christmas, under a new scheme to be announced by Nicola Sturgeon. Now that could be another costly exercise. Must be an unshaken money tree somewhere up there. :cool:
is this just an attempt to buy votes? keep the poorer families in control maybe?
 

Dredd

LE
They already have their one party state and are using it to push through bad legislation. There's no fixing this. The SNP have been allowed to run riot and control the narrative to the point that their truth is the only truth. Have a look at some of those Faceache comments above and tell me those folk aren't brainwashed idiots? If you have some time to spare and want to peer into the abyss of absolute insanity, check out some of the independence groups. It's genuinely horrifying.

Agreed. Some of it is seriously deluded.

But I am now seeing the seeds of hope in a formed resistance to the rhetoric, in that just today on the wireless (trad., not contemporary) that Scotland in Union is being quoted to counter the pish assertions of the CM.

What is sad about that is that it takes an unelected group on Facebook to raise objections to the horse manure we get shovelled our way and not the so-called Opposition who are failing their electors on an almost daily basis.

Where is the SLAB leader in all this? Even Willie Rennie gets more air time / column inches and they could just about fill a small mini-bus to get everyone to the Jock Conference. Actually, that applies to the Westminster version of the Party as well. And I may have been optimistic adding the word "-bus" there as well.

And now I think on it - where is the SC&U leader?

If they are keeping their powder dry for after the end of year festivities, then I hope it is fine grain and lots of it. Otherwise we are looking at a worse year than this one yet to come, at least locally.

I wonder if Mrs Murrell has ever looked up the definition of a Pyrrhic Victory?
 
Well we are screwed then. SNP will get their votes. Labour will get theirs and the Tories will get theirs and we’ll either get Independence shoved down our throats or they continue to harp on about it, all the while ignoring the actual running of the country and letting all the areas they are responsible for go even more to ruin.

I still think it’s possible to convince sufficient people to hold their noses and vote Labour. More than to vote Conservative and sufficient to make the point to the SNP. Depends how it’s done though I suppose.

the snp wasters staying in govt by default ,rather than by the will of the majority of voters doesn't necessarily mean they will ever get the independence they harp on about. Most of the populace still dont support independence but just keep quiet about it or are never asked by pollsters, in a similar vein to how most people are quietly ignoring Sturgeons latest lockdown.

The polls are bollocks and the bulk of the media has been so far up sturgeons dirty stinking brown towel holder that they dont have the first clue what the population think or how much sturgeon and her gang of incompetent criminals are hated.

In recent weeks, wee shitey has miraculously been harangued and publicly shamed by quite a few of the mainstream media presenters who finally seem to have woken up from a very long and deep sleep! - the very fact the evil cow is on tv every day bigging herself up and falsely declaring that she and Scotland has handled COVID far better than everyone else has finally started to trigger the reaction it should have received 6 months ago! Her record has been absolutely shameful with more Scottish deaths than anywhere else

Its a big if, but if the media stop protecting/admiring her - often through complete ignorance of Scottish Govt performance, and instead start to hold her and her cabal of perverted fraudsters to account, the whole house of cards wont take long to collapse around her ears. it is the media that are letting us all down and giving her and her hateful message an undeserved and unchallenged voice.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
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Only just noticed it via BBC.. Low income families will receive payments of £100 before Christmas, under a new scheme to be announced by Nicola Sturgeon. Now that could be another costly exercise. Must be an unshaken money tree somewhere up there. :cool:
is this just an attempt to buy votes? keep the poorer families in control maybe?

Allegedly as a stop gap until the new child payment scheme comes in next year.
Allegedly to help out with heating and other necessities
 

Dredd

LE
is this just an attempt to buy votes? keep the poorer families in control maybe?

In the case of buying votes - yes, but from middle class families and aspirants.

Because the truly poor ALREADY HAVE these.

But they will vote for the most Socialist option not because it gives them more, but keeps giving them what they already get. It's the opposite to capitalists voting for a conservative party. The problem, as you have identified, is that it makes them beholden to the State who then turns around and threatens them with losing the "support" they get if they dare vote for someone else.

It's a wee hamster wheel really.
 
Agreed. Some of it is seriously deluded.

But I am now seeing the seeds of hope in a formed resistance to the rhetoric, in that just today on the wireless (trad., not contemporary) that Scotland in Union is being quoted to counter the pish assertions of the CM.

What is sad about that is that it takes an unelected group on Facebook to raise objections to the horse manure we get shovelled our way and not the so-called Opposition who are failing their electors on an almost daily basis.

Where is the SLAB leader in all this? Even Willie Rennie gets more air time / column inches and they could just about fill a small mini-bus to get everyone to the Jock Conference. Actually, that applies to the Westminster version of the Party as well. And I may have been optimistic adding the word "-bus" there as well.

And now I think on it - where is the SC&U leader?

If they are keeping their powder dry for after the end of year festivities, then I hope it is fine grain and lots of it. Otherwise we are looking at a worse year than this one yet to come, at least locally.

I wonder if Mrs Murrell has ever looked up the definition of a Pyrrhic Victory?
I'm suspecting the SNP will have a good time of it, the propaganda machine has been in full swing for a while. The odd challenge to Nicolas (PBUH) omniscience now won't make much of a dent in it. There would have to be some kind of earth shattering revelation to sway a sizeable portion of her zealots.
 

Fang_Farrier

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In the case of buying votes - yes, but from middle class families and aspirants.

Because the truly poor ALREADY HAVE these.

But they will vote for the most Socialist option not because it gives them more, but keeps giving them what they already get. It's the opposite to capitalists voting for a conservative party. The problem, as you have identified, is that it makes them beholden to the State who then turns around and threatens them with losing the "support" they get if they date vote for someone else.

It's a wee hamster wheel really.

Middle class won't get this money .
Think the qualifier is free school meals, so can be administered at local authority level.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
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I'm suspecting the SNP will have a good time of it, the propaganda machine has been in full swing for a while. The odd challenge to Nicolas (PBUH) omniscience now won't make much of a dent in it. There would have to be some kind of earth shattering revelation to sway a sizeable portion of her zealots.
You mean like her predecessor was a rapist?
 
Only just noticed it via BBC.. Low income families will receive payments of £100 before Christmas, under a new scheme to be announced by Nicola Sturgeon. Now that could be another costly exercise. Must be an unshaken money tree somewhere up there. :cool:
Covid money held back from where it was supposed to go
 

Dredd

LE
Don't agree FF - it is certainly being touted as free scoff for all primary school children.


ETA - I think that is what you were saying though, in that the middle classes would not be getting the support payments as these are likely to be based upon those already claiming benefits and not a separate payment open for solo applications.
 
Ross getting stuck in and calling her what she is

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Dredd

LE
Covid money held back from where it was supposed to go

Haven't they done well in holding it back , and then pretending that this is all being done due to their own largess? Kudos to the genius who thought that a gap of mere months would make us forget to ask the question - but where has all the money gone, Chief Mammy? - so we wouldn't make the connection.


Edit - spelling
 

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