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Auld-Yin

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Cheers for posting that, really good.

“The SNP no longer believe in independence. They believe in dependence. On the Almighty State.”

Nutshell.


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They really have not been the Scottish National Party for years. More like the Scottish WehatetheEnglish Party.

The current SNP would align with any country as long as they are not English - and would have to!
 
The squirming, lemon sooking and eyelid battering was non stop........ unless you go into the SNP Facebook page.... where it is in overdrive at any mention of her looking uncomfortable or being pish.

Well, you are off my Christmas cards list.

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They truly walk among you.
I would say When the National apparatchik coined the phrase “ Too wee, too poor and too stupid”, which they then tried to attribute to an Englishman.!
As far as his own supporters go he was bang on the money. However Jordan Petersons thoughts on how a collective irrational histeria took a hold of 1930’s Germany has dark echos north of Gretna nowadays.
 

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Cheers for posting that, really good.

“The SNP no longer believe in independence. They believe in dependence. On the Almighty State.”

Nutshell.


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One of the more telling comments, which he reinforces later in the article, was this quote early on:

We had a Chinese family in here today and when I told them about what was being proposed they said ‘wow, that’s just like the time of Mao and the Cultural Revolution’.

As we all know, the true end-game for any Socialist / Communist political group is for there to be a One Party State, who will smile upon all with their munificent benevolence. And every time, the populace falls into line either because of belief in the cause, or really because of fear not to be seen to believe because of the punishments that will inevitably follow. And not necessarily from the State itself, but from those who are desperate to show the State how attuned they are to the Solution to Our Problems.

And yet I do not see any real hope in there being much of a dent in their stranglehold in May, even when all the signs of the Venezuela of the North are all there for anyone to see.

As I always like to quote, there is an old proverb (warning) - Be careful what you wish for, as it might just come true.
 
One of the more telling comments, which he reinforces later in the article, was this quote early on:



As we all know, the true end-game for any Socialist / Communist political group is for there to be a One Party State, who will smile upon all with their munificent benevolence. And every time, the populace falls into line either because of belief in the cause, or really because of fear not to be seen to believe because of the punishments that will inevitably follow. And not necessarily from the State itself, but from those who are desperate to show the State how attuned they are to the Solution to Our Problems.

And yet I do not see any real hope in there being much of a dent in their stranglehold in May, even when all the signs of the Venezuela of the North are all there for anyone to see.

As I always like to quote, there is an old proverb (warning) - Be careful what you wish for, as it might just come true.
As much as it pains me to say it again, the only way to put a dent in their stranglehold in May is for everyone who is against them and their ideology to vote for one party. At the moment the anti SNP vote is diluted by spreading it between a few parties. The only reasonable solution is to vote for Labour, and it makes me feel ill to say that. There is no way to convince certain of the voters to vote Conservative so we must vote Scottish Labour in May to get the message across that the SNP do not speak for the whole of Scotland. Nowhere near.
 
As much as it pains me to say it again, the only way to put a dent in their stranglehold in May is for everyone who is against them and their ideology to vote for one party. At the moment the anti SNP vote is diluted by spreading it between a few parties. The only reasonable solution is to vote for Labour, and it makes me feel ill to say that. There is no way to convince certain of the voters to vote Conservative so we must vote Scottish Labour in May to get the message across that the SNP do not speak for the whole of Scotland. Nowhere near.
You should know better ;-p

Labour - Lib Dem pact maybe? Don't expect much leeway for personal freedoms though. That said Tories under Boris have been described as Maoist this morning. A bit of an exaggeration I think, although they seem to be getting steered that way..
 

Fang_Farrier

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As much as it pains me to say it again, the only way to put a dent in their stranglehold in May is for everyone who is against them and their ideology to vote for one party. At the moment the anti SNP vote is diluted by spreading it between a few parties. The only reasonable solution is to vote for Labour, and it makes me feel ill to say that. There is no way to convince certain of the voters to vote Conservative so we must vote Scottish Labour in May to get the message across that the SNP do not speak for the whole of Scotland. Nowhere near.


And some areas have never voted Labour and it would be impossible to persuade them to do so.
 
You should know better ;-p

Labour - Lib Dem pact maybe? Don't expect much leeway for personal freedoms though. That said Tories under Boris have been described as Maoist this morning. A bit of an exaggeration I think, although they seem to be getting steered that way..
Yep. I wouldn’t expect the country to be any better run because we seem to have produced the least effective bunch of politicians that has ever been seen. Maybe though it would put the independence question to bed for a while. Probably wishful thinking.
 
So far, about a fifth of MSPs have said they will not be seeking re-election. Shame the rest of them are staying.
What is the party divide for that?

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So far, about a fifth of MSPs have said they will not be seeking re-election.

Is that just all the SNP ones who have been caught wrong doing?
 
And some areas have never voted Labour and it would be impossible to persuade them to do so.
Well we are screwed then. SNP will get their votes. Labour will get theirs and the Tories will get theirs and we’ll either get Independence shoved down our throats or they continue to harp on about it, all the while ignoring the actual running of the country and letting all the areas they are responsible for go even more to ruin.

I still think it’s possible to convince sufficient people to hold their noses and vote Labour. More than to vote Conservative and sufficient to make the point to the SNP. Depends how it’s done though I suppose.
 

Dredd

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This was the tweet from Agent P on the topic of the Chief Mammy's latest outing (beyond the daily PPB of course):


But it is all explained by the Permanent Resident of Bute House:

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Look at all the families with kids getting school meals, brekkie and lunch (Dinner if you're from Lancashire). If the families are in the poverty sector then all of a sudden, on leaving school, the kids stop being fed by the state. Massive expense for families affected, bugger if twins are involved. Perhaps they will extend the scheme until they turn 21. :cool:
 
Look at all the families with kids getting school meals, brekkie and lunch (Dinner if you're from Lancashire). If the families are in the poverty sector then all of a sudden, on leaving school, the kids stop being fed by the state. Massive expense for families affected, bugger if twins are involved. Perhaps they will extend the scheme until they turn 71. :cool:
Fixed that for you
 
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