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Fang_Farrier

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Just to clarify the majority of MPs representing Scotland are from the SNP
To be elected they gained a majority of votes from each constituency.

When you break down the numbers eligible to vote
who voted for whom and those who chose not to vote
then it all comes down to statistics

So to surmise the SNP represent all of Scottish population regardless of who did or did not vote for them
This means that they do represent those who voted for them which makes their manifesto pertinent to them
For those who did not vote for the SNP, the only way to erode the SNP is to support the other parties ensuring they come up with catchier soundbites sincere promises and of course trust
 

HCL

Old-Salt
Just to clarify the majority of MPs representing Scotland are from the SNP
To be elected they gained a majority of votes from each constituency.

When you break down the numbers eligible to vote
who voted for whom and those who chose not to vote
then it all comes down to statistics

So to surmise the SNP represent all of Scottish population regardless of who did or did not vote for them
This means that they do represent those who voted for them which makes their manifesto pertinent to them
For those who did not vote for the SNP, the only way to erode the SNP is to support the other parties ensuring they come up with catchier soundbites sincere promises and of course trust

Not really. It boils down to this: 55% wanted to stay in the union and a lot of those will have later voted for an SNP MP simply because the threat of independence brings more cash to Scotland from the rest of the UK.

It's just canny politics. If and when the Scottish people are asked to take part in an Indy Ref again, they'll bvote for the union and then still vote SNP in the general elections. It's just a game called gimme, gimme, gimme. If Scotland ever did vote for independence, it'll be an accident and by a sliver majority. Then the English will say, righty ho, off you go and cough up for Darian first -- there's your reason why they're bankers to the world.
 
Not really. It boils down to this: 55% wanted to stay in the union and a lot of those will have later voted for an SNP MP simply because the threat of independence brings more cash to Scotland from the rest of the UK.

It's just canny politics. If and when the Scottish people are asked to take part in an Indy Ref again, they'll bvote for the union and then still vote SNP in the general elections. It's just a game called gimme, gimme, gimme. If Scotland ever did vote for independence, it'll be an accident and by a sliver majority. Then the English will say, righty ho, off you go and cough up for Darian first -- there's your reason why they're bankers to the world.
And then watch Nippy panic!
 
Not really. It boils down to this: 55% wanted to stay in the union and a lot of those will have later voted for an SNP MP simply because the threat of independence brings more cash to Scotland from the rest of the UK.

It's just canny politics. If and when the Scottish people are asked to take part in an Indy Ref again, they'll bvote for the union and then still vote SNP in the general elections. It's just a game called gimme, gimme, gimme. If Scotland ever did vote for independence, it'll be an accident and by a sliver majority. Then the English will say, righty ho, off you go and cough up for Darian first -- there's your reason why they're bankers to the world.
I have no problem with another vote for Scottish Independence - if they want to break the Union, then the Union gets a say.

I 'd expect most English to vote for them to leave for a laugh and to see what happens next.
 

HCL

Old-Salt
I have no problem with another vote for Scottish Independence - if they want to break the Union, then the Union gets a say.

I 'd expect most English to vote for them to leave for a laugh and to see what happens next.

They'd be choking on their Darjeerling in Morningside, right enough.
 
Just to clarify the majority of MPs representing Scotland are from the SNP
To be elected they gained a majority of votes from each constituency.

When you break down the numbers eligible to vote
who voted for whom and those who chose not to vote
then it all comes down to statistics

So to surmise the SNP represent all of Scottish population regardless of who did or did not vote for them
This means that they do represent those who voted for them which makes their manifesto pertinent to them
For those who did not vote for the SNP, the only way to erode the SNP is to support the other parties ensuring they come up with catchier soundbites sincere promises and of course trust

the trouble with your statement is that they didn't get the majority of the votes in each constituency - in most cases, the other parties together got the majority of the votes, the SNP only received the single biggest allocation of votes that any single party received in that constituency. Therefore, in most cases, they do not represent the majority of Scottish voter opinion.

however, you are absolutely correct that this is primarily down to the opposition parties failure to bring forward an inspiring agenda and message and secondly the fact the media is in their pockets and refuses to challenge their failures in any meaningful and informative way..

The SNP most definitely does not represent majority Scottish opinion, only a strong peak stupid minority who thrive on anti English/Westminster rhetoric, pipe dreams of 'freedom' and a total inability to understand basic economics and what good governance of our govt depts and public services should be.
 
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Dredd

LE
To be honest, I haven't watched a single one of her propaganda sessions so leave it on / take it off, makes no difference to me. Any pertinent information from it is later reported so I could miss out the "aren't we doing better than them" gubbins she spouts (how do I know she does that - well, that is reported later as well).

What it does do is prove, day after day, that she has NO OTHER PURPOSE than to script and perform like a trained seal.

And yet there are those who adore her, and lap up every golden word that drips from her perfectly formed rosey lips. Totally pathetic. But since it is awesome being Scots, we must have some character flaw to even it out a bit or the burden of brilliance would be too much for us.
 

Mick9abf

War Hero
Aaaaand shock!! The BBC bow to pressure from Kim Jong Sturgeon as standard. In the National Socialist Scotland, the press will do as it's told. FFS.


My take is 54,000 paid up SNP members.... I mean members of the public complained and the Nats supporters campaigned outside a building and a public funded broadcaster that should be defunded who, with the exception of one political commentator, suck up to the SNP causing a U-Turn.

I‘ve said before that with the storm brewing in the wings Sturgeon will do everything she can to take control of a situation which isn’t challenging to avoid scrutiny or suppress dealing with matters that could expose SNP failings.
 
Aaaaand shock!! The BBC bow to pressure from Kim Jong Sturgeon as standard. In the National Socialist Scotland, the press will do as it's told. FFS.

I really don't care what the BBC are doing in Scotland . . . but, why was "Kim Jong Sturgeon" still been broadcast on the BBC NEWS channel, at lunch time, earlier this week . . . in Lincolnshire, and therefore (presumably) the rest of England ?! :( .
 
Just to clarify the majority of MPs representing Scotland are from the SNP
To be elected they gained a majority of votes from each constituency.

When you break down the numbers eligible to vote
who voted for whom and those who chose not to vote
then it all comes down to statistics

So to surmise the SNP represent all of Scottish population regardless of who did or did not vote for them
This means that they do represent those who voted for them which makes their manifesto pertinent to them
For those who did not vote for the SNP, the only way to erode the SNP is to support the other parties ensuring they come up with catchier soundbites sincere promises and of course trust
I agree with some of that, but not that the SNP members in the UK Parliament represent “all of the Scottish population”, any more than the Conservatives or Labour represented all of the population when they were in the majority. Scotland is not a single voting entity within Westminster - even if it looked precious close to that at one time! Saying that the majority party represent all the Scottish population at Westminster Implies that minority party MPs represent no-one, which is nonsense.
 

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