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Re schools, Scottish schools start their summer hols much earlier than England so getting back before the holidays is not practical.

What I don't understand is why, after two+ months away from school there has to be an extended sumer holiday anyway. Couple of weeks for staff to set up new procedures then crack on would be the best thing for kid's education. But no! They must have seven weeks holiday and can't be changed. Absolute Bollox!
It's all to do with pay and conditions. And you are assuming they have been doing foxtrot alpha all this time which is not true. What you want them to do is essentially work for free - not a concept that most would rush to embrace if they were the ones affected.
 
Still, on the bright side, the Sainted Nicola will soon be resuming her French lessons, if she hasn't already stopped.
I understand she is a cunning linguist already
If the papers were really really bored, could they snap a picture or two of someone entering or leaving a location that isn't a family or official residence….
After all the hullabaloo about a spad, surely a discrete liaison dangerous would sell out…..
 

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It's all to do with pay and conditions. And you are assuming they have been doing foxtrot alpha all this time which is not true. What you want them to do is essentially work for free - not a concept that most would rush to embrace if they were the ones affected.
With the amount of time off the teachers get, paid BTW, they can class this as pay back time. Some terachers have been working from home online but many others haven't. With the exceptional circumstances I think the teachers could easily work those few extra weeks. No need for extra pay as they are being paid anyway.

I once worked out my teacher brother's time at work and with breaks mid morning, lunch, afternoon and away between 3.30 and 4 pm his hours at work equated to a part time worker. And don't get me on about tghose that take work home. There is no reason why they can't do that at school after the kids have gone home leaving at a normal working time of 5.30-6 pm. Most of the teachers that do work at home do so because they can't wait to get out of the school gates.

Sorry, but while I would never be a teacher myself, they are not exactly hard done to with hours and pay!
 
With the amount of time off the teachers get, paid BTW, they can class this as pay back time. Some terachers have been working from home online but many others haven't. With the exceptional circumstances I think the teachers could easily work those few extra weeks. No need for extra pay as they are being paid anyway.

I once worked out my teacher brother's time at work and with breaks mid morning, lunch, afternoon and away between 3.30 and 4 pm his hours at work equated to a part time worker. And don't get me on about tghose that take work home. There is no reason why they can't do that at school after the kids have gone home leaving at a normal working time of 5.30-6 pm. Most of the teachers that do work at home do so because they can't wait to get out of the school gates.

Sorry, but while I would never be a teacher myself, they are not exactly hard done to with hours and pay!
We had acquaintances, both were teachers, at the local rugby club. One night myself, my mum and dad and a few others were enjoying a quite night chatting and couple of beers when they decided to join us. Things were going well until Mrs Acquaintance started gobbing off about the hours, the pay and having to especially going through uni etc. We all sat there nodding and saying "Yes" at the appropriate moment but she would not stop about going to Uni to be a teacher.

After about 20 minutes of her droning on and on my dad being his usual self said, very loudly,

"That is all very interesting. Did you know I have more letters after my name than you have in yours".

The whole table and the neighbouring tables erupted in laughter.

With that she her slammed her drink down and saying, "Come on, we are leaving".
 
With the amount of time off the teachers get, paid BTW, they can class this as pay back time. Some terachers have been working from home online but many others haven't. With the exceptional circumstances I think the teachers could easily work those few extra weeks. No need for extra pay as they are being paid anyway.

I once worked out my teacher brother's time at work and with breaks mid morning, lunch, afternoon and away between 3.30 and 4 pm his hours at work equated to a part time worker. And don't get me on about tghose that take work home. There is no reason why they can't do that at school after the kids have gone home leaving at a normal working time of 5.30-6 pm. Most of the teachers that do work at home do so because they can't wait to get out of the school gates.

Sorry, but while I would never be a teacher myself, they are not exactly hard done to with hours and pay!
It is a job that you either succeed in or sink like a stone..
Scottish education is a shadow of its former self, under the current regime there has been small successes with larger step backs. New technology helps those who need help assistance to learn, the tablet distribution does work. Imparting knowledge can be two fold for both the teacher and pupils.
One of those jobs that fits into the "civvies with power " bit like AR officers who go on tour or go regular…..
 
What he said.

Chatting to a couple of local mums and dads, on my walk around the neighbourhood, they are saying the same thing. They are also saying that it is bad enough with the current education system but there are going to be so many left behind, again.
its an absolute disgrace, many kids have had zero or the very bairest minimum of work from school, they ve been trapped inside and unable to socialise, desperately need a routine, some need decent food at school and some need to escape abuse or stressful conditions - most peoples summer holidays have been cancelled so the teachers/parents have no excuse for needing the 7 week break plus the parents need the kids at school so they can go back to work. the one definite in all this, is that the scientists/modellers called it wrong, are talking on the hoof, are reluctant to back down in light of new information and politicians are too scared to do anything they will get blamed for - essentially they are all tunnel visioned and not looking at the whole picture, it is a fact that people will die, suffer, be financially crippled and with it our institutions, businesses and infrastructure if we do not start getting back to normal asap - do it sensibly but do it now! there will be more cv cases but we now know that 99.9% of all people will survive it and we need to switch our resource to protecting only the most vulnerable.
 
The whole school as a day care, not a place of learning is going to affect the snp when it comes to next years elections.

My niece was learning about abolition, she didn't get the nitty gritty of the finer points more a gloss over.
Mr fecking flag in garden swinney really needs to explain why the feck children are not being taught to a basic level


anyhow anyone listen to BBC Radio Scotland - Podlitical - Available now
 
I ve got 3 nieces and 2 nephews and all of them are having their educations severely affected by this crisis - the oldest girl was in Her first year at high school and it’s not only missing the education it’s also hurting her to establish where she sits within the hierarchy of kids from all the different primary schools that we all have to learn in first year - the oldest boy up in Orkney was already behind because he lived on an island with a very small amount of different age kids in a school of 10 ish pupils but recently moved to the mainland Orkney In to a mainstream high school and has had to have catch up lessons plus get used to being in general population in a ‘Normal’ school environment - the veryyoungest hasn’t been able to go to play school/ kindergarten so not socialising with other kids and the other 2 in Clydebank have received some stuff from primary school but live in a very small house with limited space or facilities for peaceful learning - Ithink that there are a veryloud minority of mainly middle class people in nice circumstance who think that everyone else’s families have it as good and simply cannot fathom the damage being done hence why the continue to demand the lockdown continue and denounce peoplewho they see as being irresponsible
 
I ve got 3 nieces and 2 nephews and all of them are having their educations severely affected by this crisis - the oldest girl was in Her first year at high school and it’s not only missing the education it’s also hurting her to establish where she sits within the hierarchy of kids from all the different primary schools that we all have to learn in first year - the oldest boy up in Orkney was already behind because he lived on an island with a very small amount of different age kids in a school of 10 ish pupils but recently moved to the mainland Orkney In to a mainstream high school and has had to have catch up lessons plus get used to being in general population in a ‘Normal’ school environment - the veryyoungest hasn’t been able to go to play school/ kindergarten so not socialising with other kids and the other 2 in Clydebank have received some stuff from primary school but live in a very small house with limited space or facilities for peaceful learning - Ithink that there are a veryloud minority of mainly middle class people in nice circumstance who think that everyone else’s families have it as good and simply cannot fathom the damage being done hence why the continue to demand the lockdown continue and denounce peoplewho they see as being irresponsible
Next Christmas, ask for a full stop, they look like this: .
 

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Britons fury at Nicola Sturgeon as she blames Westminster for all 'her own failures'

I only noticed this thanks to looking at an Express link posted by @TamH70 on another thread. :thumright: ETA the good news is that this story is in other papers too. I find the Express site is awful to try and scroll through.

From over a week ago, wee Ruth was doing a series of media appearances. She ducked back down below the parapet as soon as the Cummings story broke
 

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Was he on QT the other night? Can't remember as lost my rag with Bruce and BBC bias with the panel, so turned off. Certainly worth 2 mins of your life.

The one from Glasgow?
Also on was Alex Massey of the Spectator, Swinney, somebody from NHS and a very weak minister from Westminster who seemed entirely out of their depth
 

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The one from Glasgow?
Also on was Alex Massey of the Spectator, Swinney, somebody from NHS and a very weak minister from Westminster who seemed entirely out of their depth
That was the one. Agreed about the Minister, not helped by Bruce's continued interruptions. And neatly, the last 20 seconds of the clip demonstrates the lack of good Scottish Conservative MP's that are so urgently needed.
 

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I suppose it shows the SNP's position of power and how weak Labour have been that Guido is having to have so many pops at them
 

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