Scottish Politics Thread

Alex Bell, a witness for the defence, in the recent Salmond trial, has just written the most exquisite political character assassination I’ve ever read. It foretells great trouble for the SNP/SG in the immediate aftermath of the current crisis (as long as the main protagonist survives, didn’t know he’s got underlying medical issues) with the return of Alex Salmond as he seeks vengeance against those he thinks “wronged” him. I would provide a link to it but my WiFi is playing up. I know that it’s slightly far fetched but in an extreme scenario could we see a serious split in the SNP as the internal opposing cliques coalesce around Sturgeon and Salmond and the potential for a new independence supporting party? Our most revered clergyman has previously mooted a new party, we know he’s got a support base that are willing to fund him, Salmond also has a support base out with the party and has previously managed to secure funding, in such a scenario they could potentially start a new party, without the millstone of an openly nationalist name. Interesting times ahead for the SNP potentially, time will tell whether Salmond decides he wants revenge, maybe some of our amateur psychologists/psychiatrists would like to give us our thoughts on Salmond’s character?

This one?

 

CanteenCowboy

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This one?

Yes indeed it is that one, a finely crafted piece of political character assassination as you could wish to read, close your eyes after reading the last part and the mental image of Salmond trying to reach round to the freshly thrust dagger, judiciously placed close to the spine between the bottom two ribs, leaps uncalled for to the forefront of your mind. Whilst in no way a political forecaster or pundit, I do remember when I first saw the now infamous photo of Alex Salmond and the Solero incident, I mentally sucked breath in and thought “that’s not a good look.”
 
It may have passed ARRSErs by, Police Scotland, not prepared to wait for emergency powers, used existing legislation to close rebellious boozers.

Although it appears that one of his deputies took the initiative, Chief Constable Iain Livingstone QPM added: “I am fully supportive of the enforcement action taken today which is entirely proportionate to the threat posed to the safety of Scotland’s communities."

“I have a clear, positive duty to both protect life and improve the safety and wellbeing of people across Scotland, while supporting the government and health agencies in our fight against this pandemic.”

Good call Chief.
It may have also passed some by that CC's don't need emergency powers in these situations. I'm sure they have powers under the Licencing laws-town police clauses or some such to be able to vary opening hours unless that has now changed under the modern idiot. And it pays for licencees to be on very good terms with the Police. So perhaps it's more a case of self preservation.
 
Yes indeed it is that one, a finely crafted piece of political character assassination as you could wish to read, close your eyes after reading the last part and the mental image of Salmond trying to reach round to the freshly thrust dagger, judiciously placed close to the spine between the bottom two ribs, leaps uncalled for to the forefront of your mind. Whilst in no way a political forecaster or pundit, I do remember when I first saw the now infamous photo of Alex Salmond and the Solero incident, I mentally sucked breath in and thought “that’s not a good look.”
This bit I think won't take long to jump into the publics notice once Salmond starts his antics:

"... Nicola Sturgeon and many in the SNP’s leadership cadre had grown tired of the ex-FM. Sick of keeping his secrets from the membership, they sought to stop him."

Lets hope that as predicted the Party will tear itself apart and get rid of both factions. I'm not sure though that it will make much difference to how the General public will vote in the Scottish elections though, whenever they're held that is.
 

Auld-Yin

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Yes indeed it is that one, a finely crafted piece of political character assassination as you could wish to read, close your eyes after reading the last part and the mental image of Salmond trying to reach round to the freshly thrust dagger, judiciously placed close to the spine between the bottom two ribs, leaps uncalled for to the forefront of your mind. Whilst in no way a political forecaster or pundit, I do remember when I first saw the now infamous photo of Alex Salmond and the Solero incident, I mentally sucked breath in and thought “that’s not a good look.”
It's fun, innit! :)
 

mcphee1948

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All these recent reports about top Scottish politicians, seem to reveal a depravity at the heart of Scottish politics.

Why are Scottish politicians so depraved? Is it because they're frustrated by not yet achieving Independence?
 
This bit I think won't take long to jump into the publics notice once Salmond starts his antics:

"... Nicola Sturgeon and many in the SNP’s leadership cadre had grown tired of the ex-FM. Sick of keeping his secrets from the membership, they sought to stop him."

Lets hope that as predicted the Party will tear itself apart and get rid of both factions. I'm not sure though that it will make much difference to how the General public will vote in the Scottish elections though, whenever they're held that is.
hopefully they will finally wake up and take notice that without the RoTUK financial, organisational and logistical support during the present crisis Queen Nicola and the dreamers plus Scotland would be totally and utterly fecked! - just look at the fuel prices alone never mind the near total absense of any meaningful leadership from this SNP govt. I really hope that people can finally park their inbuilt distrust of a 'posh english bloke' to realise that no other politician in our land, especially those from Labour, Lib Dems and the SNP could have handled this crisis any better than bojo currently is - I'm not saying hes brilliant ! merely that the dearth of talent that our whole political class has makes him shine like a diamond. Also, hopefully post crisis we will start fracking to regenerate some wealth that we cant generate anywhere else!
 

mcphee1948

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These are valuable points, that you make.
 

Fang_Farrier

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All these recent reports about top Scottish politicians, seem to reveal a depravity at the heart of Scottish politics.

Why are Scottish politicians so depraved? Is it because they're frustrated by not yet achieving Independence?
Unfortunately for your argument although the former FM was acquitted of all charges and the former finance minister was never charged, the most recent addition to the sex offenders register was the Conservative councillor in Aberdeen
 

SDFA

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Unfortunately for your argument although the former FM was acquitted of all charges and the former finance minister was never charged, the most recent addition to the sex offenders register was the Conservative councillor in Aberdeen
You really, really, really dont like him, do you?
 

tgo

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All these recent reports about top Scottish politicians, seem to reveal a depravity at the heart of Scottish politics.

Why are Scottish politicians so depraved? Is it because they're frustrated by not yet achieving Independence?
Probably because they still think like county councillors, devolution should be revoked as a bad idea.
 
Probably because they still think like county councillors, devolution should be revoked as a bad idea.
Only if by cancelling Devolution they increase the number of seats in Westminster allocated to the Scots, Welsh & NI to compensate, that way we may have legislation (and equal allocation of government funds and jobs) that suits all not just those in England.
 

tgo

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Only if by cancelling Devolution they increase the number of seats in Westminster allocated to the Scots, Welsh & NI to compensate, that way we may have legislation (and equal allocation of government funds and jobs) that suits all not just those in England.
I was thinking more of at least then when they bitch about 'Westmonster' it might be more believable :dance:
 

FHA

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All these recent reports about top Scottish politicians, seem to reveal a depravity at the heart of Scottish politics.

Why are Scottish politicians so depraved? Is it because they're frustrated by not yet achieving Independence?
Best summed up in the article quoted by CanteenCowboy and johnboyzzz above:

“politics is showbusiness for ugly people”


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SDFA

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Am I missing a trick here?
Despite the majority of COVID planning and direction coming from Westminster and the PM, on twitter Nicola appears to be being compared to a combination of Mother Theresa and Barrack Obama.

All I have seen her do is preannounce the majority of COBRs plans, stand next to a frightened rabbit, and generally repeat what has been said before.

She is now entering the dangerous realm of setting up her own advice team of specialists who will no doubt introduce differing policies to the rUK which will be seized upon by a frenzied media looking for any chance to exploit disharmony and create further confusion.

Agreed we have some differences to rUK, but these are mainly geographical and age related. What does she hope to achieve- earn enough brownie points with Joe Public to stave off any challenge by Ms Cherry, achieve a lasting legacy of being the saviour of Scotland.

Answers on a postcard please to W12 8QT
 
Only if by cancelling Devolution they increase the number of seats in Westminster allocated to the Scots, Welsh & NI to compensate, that way we may have legislation (and equal allocation of government funds and jobs) that suits all not just those in England.
Scotland already has more MPs pro rata than England.
 

giatttt

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Why are Scottish politicians so depraved? Is it because they're frustrated by not yet achieving Independence?
The Chinese eat weird animals and create hideous viruses, the crofters woo and then breed with weird animals. The prodgeny of these couplings seem to gravitate to political office.

It was fine until devolved powers became a thing.
 
Am I missing a trick here?
Despite the majority of COVID planning and direction coming from Westminster and the PM, on twitter Nicola appears to be being compared to a combination of Mother Theresa and Barrack Obama.

All I have seen her do is preannounce the majority of COBRs plans, stand next to a frightened rabbit, and generally repeat what has been said before.

She is now entering the dangerous realm of setting up her own advice team of specialists who will no doubt introduce differing policies to the rUK which will be seized upon by a frenzied media looking for any chance to exploit disharmony and create further confusion.

Agreed we have some differences to rUK, but these are mainly geographical and age related. What does she hope to achieve- earn enough brownie points with Joe Public to stave off any challenge by Ms Cherry, achieve a lasting legacy of being the saviour of Scotland.

Answers on a postcard please to W12 8QT
Being the First Minister she knows the ins and outs of Scotland a wee bit better than Westminster, granted she now has TAC HQ of the dog eaters to assist her in planning.
 

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