Scottish Politics Thread

woger wabbit

Old-Salt
SNP & the awful Sturgeon woman saying if we do not get a 2nd referendum we do not support you?
The Scots voted to stay with the UK, what if defeated again will she want a 3rd?
Probably and . a 4th, 5th and so on until she gets the result she wants. Has the little minx forgotten the once in a generation referendum, and the result ??. :frustrated:
 
I'll feckin' Dinky you cheeky cnut.
Aussie collector's items bought at the Bathurst V8 Supercar enduro.
Signed 'n every fink. Probably £120/140 per. So there see.
'N my conker would smash your conker too.

I used to love my dinky cars.
Me and me brother used to buy real battered ones.
A repaint, new tyes, stick on go faster stripes and number plates.
Sell them on.
Never pinched any though, always paid cash. ;)
 
Probably and . a 4th, 5th and so on until she gets the result she wants. Has the little minx forgotten the once in a generation referendum, and the result ??. :frustrated:
Not at all if the result goes against them(SNP), the establishment aka Westminster or Tories (delete as appropriate) will get the blame for the bigger fix since Op Mincemeat.

For clarity

“Ms Sturgeon said Mr Johnson's plan would lead to a "much harder Brexit", highlighting that people in Scotland voted for Remain by 62% in the 2016 poll.
The SNP leader had always been clear that her 35 MPs would reject any deal brought back by Mr Johnson which takes the UK out of the EU's single market and customs union”
 
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Dredd

LE
I do not know...who does? SNP needs a Holyrood root & branch clean out and a clean sheet of paper in my view.
I did not have issues with SNP as a conceptual & political model for Scotland. That was pre Salmond days never mind Wee Nippy. As I presented before on this thread ( the infamous McCrone Report) from the early 70's, it's absolutely no wonder initial negotiations over Indy were killed when the North Sea was developing, The very thought, through independence, of a £1.00 to £1.20 exchange rate, the mere conception of Scotland becoming ( as Norway did) a lush Kuwait with excessive per-capita reserves while Westminster burned was not ever an option given the crippling national debt.

If we had been "let go" back then, we'd not be now what many here consider as an unfair drain on the Treasury today. I would say to them...think again who to blame...once they have done a bit of even handed investigation. Those who care to read the report of Prof. Gavin McCrone from 1974 will see for themselves the nightmare scenario it presented Westminster including the horror of the biggest international banks setting up shop 10 to the dozen Swiss style (probably) in Edinburgh & Glasgow...perhaps pulling out of so called " The City".
Independence was set to Quote:
Provide Scotland with chronic surplus to a quite embarrassing degree and its currency would become the hardest in Europe". This led successive iterations of the British government to classify the McCrone report as "secret"...sort of.....read "suppressed......but not quite locked away. It was put into the free public domain only in 2005.....you may guess why.

Not my words, opinions, or findings...it's all there. Anyone wants to call it a load of cock, write to Prof. Gavin McCrone himself. It was such a load of cock(?) it caused The Village in Englandsheer in political terms to shat itself...and rightly so. He was and is one of the finest Keynesian intellectuals & economists of the 20th & 21st century. That's why his reports were taken as bible. He was right. Simples. Ironically, he was commissioned by the Scottish Office. He was probably not too surprised to see the Report minimised publically as far as possible without committing it to Top Secret Westminster "Eyes Only". It was, however, not lost upon the SNP but unfortunately too many of my "compatriots" have spent decades howling at a "oor Oil" moon that has long disappeared in billion barrel volumes, probably never to rise again.

That is all very well, but making the assumption that Scotland would have emulated Norway from the beginning is speculation, and not very evidence based considering the socialist leanings of the industry base at the time of the discovery and start of exploitation.

If anyone wants to see a microcosm of how Scottish politic would have worked during that time in history, take a look at the Corporation of Glasgow. Corruption, power plays and nepotism was rife. Not to mention the sometimes too cosy relationship with the underworld. The probability would have been that the lot would have been spaffed up the wall, as a famous statesman recently said.
 
The other day at the big gig up north they had a resolution, that was passed, that they wanted to look at an increase of pensions in a iScotland to the EU average of £355 a week.

There are around 1.033.000 pensioners in Scotland with an increase of £225.80 a week to bring it to that level they would have to find around £12Bn a week.

I am all for it as I am getting to a certain age :grin:
 
The other day at the big gig up north they had a resolution, that was passed, that they wanted to look at an increase of pensions in a iScotland to the EU average of £355 a week.

There are around 1.033.000 pensioners in Scotland with an increase of £225.80 a week to bring it to that level they would have to find around £12Bn a week.

I am all for it as I am getting to a certain age :grin:
midsomer murders werthers originals and frequent tript to the loo to avoid soiling yourself beckon…….or you could splaff your pension in the pubic triangle with free nhs viagra….
 

homeworker

War Hero
The other day at the big gig up north they had a resolution, that was passed, that they wanted to look at an increase of pensions in a iScotland to the EU average of £355 a week.

There are around 1.033.000 pensioners in Scotland with an increase of £225.80 a week to bring it to that level they would have to find around £12Bn a week.

I am all for it as I am getting to a certain age :grin:
If they do the pension rise Mrs Homeworker and I will be moving to more northern climes
 
The probability would have been that the lot would have been spaffed up the wall, as a famous statesman recently said.
I'd have bought shares in Buckfast & Greggs. Annual Billions spread around a few million.
Would have been entertaining to watch So Few, Spaffing so Much, on behalf of...so Few ( of a population)
 
Off politics onto the high street.


Sad to see it go, part of the ritual shopping as a kid, dragged around all the established big shops in the 80s….rumoured to sustain the RAF with farah trousers….

On politics

Very fast turn around, lets hope his decision is understood digested and importantly respected
 
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We'll be fine with tea bags as we have:



Made fur oor hard Scottish Water and no that soft English *spits* Shite!!
I confess that when I first moved up here it was somewhat of a shock to the system to find that the Scottish definitions of 'hard' and 'soft' were reversed from my normal understanding.

Our Surrey tapwater furred up kettles so quickly that they looked like refugees from a Yorkshire cavern before you'd even managed to turn the tap on. Here in Sco'lan the kettles are all still as unsullied as the day they were first plugged in on Skara Brae.
 
Is Nicola afraid, it will be interesting how the SNP vote today, despite the right hon. member for Ross, Skye and Lochaber attempting to hold out for a possible January election. 35 SNP MPs may find that themselves seeking new employment….unless of course the 7 labour MPs suffer the wrath of Nicola….with Scotland succumbing to Nicolas dear santa letter.

 
Is Nicola afraid, it will be interesting how the SNP vote today, despite the right hon. member for Ross, Skye and Lochaber attempting to hold out for a possible January election. 35 SNP MPs may find that themselves seeking new employment….unless of course the 7 labour MPs suffer the wrath of Nicola….with Scotland succumbing to Nicolas dear santa letter.

The SNP will have MPs at Westminster for many years to come, maybe not in the numbers they currently enjoy but still.

As staying in the EU is party policy, along with leaving the UK, I'd expect everyone of them to vote against the deal.
 
Very fast turn around, lets hope his decision is understood digested and importantly respected
Lord Pentland was less than impressed with:
a) The speed they wanted this done at
b) The content of the submission
He seemingly got very tetchy with Jolyons QC on several occasions and constantly asked why the rush? Methinks Jolyon could be deemed as a vexatious litigant soon.
 
The other day at the big gig up north they had a resolution, that was passed, that they wanted to look at an increase of pensions in a iScotland to the EU average of £355 a week.

There are around 1.033.000 pensioners in Scotland with an increase of £225.80 a week to bring it to that level they would have to find around £12Bn a week.

I am all for it as I am getting to a certain age :grin:
If they do the pension rise Mrs Homeworker and I will be moving to more northern climes
Having already moved up here, Mrs Excog might think it almost compensates for the lack of visibility of Nature's Vitamin D Machine.

With the extra cash, she'll probably want to buy a couple of fur coats off those starving English pensioners. She says lots of people talk about it being a Wee Nippy up here ...
 
Watch out for the balloon payments!
As well?



I've always fancied a ride in one(*). How many MSPs does it take to inflate the balloon? Do they share one between several balloons?


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(*) Actually, I'm lying. If you can't advance the throttle and do a go-around, I'm not interested.
 

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