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Scottish Officers in Scottish Regiments

#1
I was recently watching Ross Kemp with 5 Scots. and noticed that the Officers appeared to be English (nothing wrong with that I might add) BUT is there a lack of Scots who wish to serve as Commissioned Officers?
Or are they Jocks who put on posh accents after Sandhurst?
 
#3
What stereotype? Being Scottish? Sounding Scottish? What's the problem with that?

I'm a Glaswegian Helicopter pilot, I sound Scottish and it has not done my career any harm. I don't understand the stereotype thingy you refer too.
 
#9
It seems that many English officers think that Scottish regiments are a good choice (nothing wrong with that at all). However, some often have feeble reasoning for their choice. Whilst the usual 'i own half of Scotland' excuse has been used for a long time, i recently met a chap whose reasoning astonished me. This chap, who wore a lovely red hackle, claimed that he had chosen the prestigious regiment because 'he liked the sound of bagpipes', which absolutely amazed me.
It is worth bearing in mind as well, that many of those from Edinburgh sound like they're from England as well, dont be fooled.
 
#10
heroforhelp said:
... claimed that he had chosen the prestigious regiment because 'he liked the sound of bagpipes', which absolutely amazed me.....
Seems like a perfectly reasonable reason to join a regiment to me... It really doesnt matter where you are from and if you have no family or regional affiliations to any regiment why not choose the one whose mess dress is nicest/have the best quick march/get a cool hat?

Inf Bns are all good nowerdays so there is little to choose between!
 
#11
Pretty much to a man, all of the Scottish Officers I know don't sound Scottish - less for one I was at Sandhurst with (the exception proving the rule).

I don't know whether that is because they went to a particular school, or type of school, or whether Sandbags thrashes it from them.

Coming to think of it, on of by former BCs (now a Brigadier) sounds more scottish the more senior he gets - stealth approach maybe?
 
#12
For many of us it is simply to stop the pain of being continuously asked to 'say again' that we learn to speak as if we had a neutral 'english' accent.
 
#13
As a large number tend to be public school educated they all sound the same; including those who attended public schiool in Scotland. The only thoroughly Scottish officer I served with (excluding LEs) had been to school with a lot of the Jocks, was a superb Platoon Commander but has struggled since then.
Inevitably most Jock officers spend their first 6 or so months asking their soldiers to repeat everything and not understanding 80% of what they say - in our Battalion we had East coasters, West coasters and Islanders and it took a great deal of time to 'tune your ear' to them.
 
#16
scots_wahey said:
As a large number tend to be public school educated they all sound the same; including those who attended public schiool in Scotland. The only thoroughly Scottish officer I served with (excluding LEs) had been to school with a lot of the Jocks, was a superb Platoon Commander but has struggled since then.
Inevitably most Jock officers spend their first 6 or so months asking their soldiers to repeat everything and not understanding 80% of what they say - in our Battalion we had East coasters, West coasters and Islanders and it took a great deal of time to 'tune your ear' to them.
I am not going to deny that I needed a translator.

Out of interest, why is that people might think that SCOTS officers should be Scottish?
 
#17
When I said Scottish Officers, I meant all cap badges - true to say that Officers in Scottish Regiments need not be Scottish, same as any other Regiment from that standpoint.
 
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#18
Bell206 said:
What stereotype? Being Scottish? Sounding Scottish? What's the problem with that?

I'm a Glaswegian Helicopter pilot, I sound Scottish and it has not done my career any harm. I don't understand the stereotype thingy you refer too.
You need to have a word with those blokes in Air Traffic Control then mate. They're always taking the p*ss and referring to you as 'Jimmy Crankie and his wee helicopter' when you're on the radio.

"Anybody know what's he's saying?"

"Nah mate. Just park him over there behind the bins".
 
#19
barbs said:
Out of interest, why is that people might think that SCOTS officers should be Scottish?
Hold on Barbs, it's an idea so lets not dismiss it out of hand...

Personally speaking, the next person who meets me wearing a Scottish rugby shirt, kilt and SRFU Supporters club beanie and says "You're not Scottish? Well you don't sound Scottish." will discover that mindless violence apparently has no regional accent either.

I can guarantee that i will sound Scottish on 21st March at Twickenham - either gloating in an unsporting manner or greeting into my twelfth pint, when I know i should have stopped at eight, the bastas...
 

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