Scotland in or out of the Union?

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by Ord_Sgt, May 12, 2010.

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  1. Scottish and I want independence.

    10.4%
  2. Scottish and I wish to remain as part of the Union.

    26.7%
  3. English and I want Scotland out of the Union.

    37.6%
  4. English and I wan't Scotland to remain in the Union.

    25.3%

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  1. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    So lets vote, however unreliable this is.
     
  2. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    I'm first and voted for Scotland to remain as part of the Union.
     
  3. Likewise. I think we're small enough as we are as two states together... Nevermind as seperate countries.
     
  4. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    OK there's some who've voted, but it kind of requires an explanation as to why you have your viewpoint, just having an opinion is a bit boring really, tell us why you think what you do?
     
  5. VG

    Drawing parallels between SNP and those with Aspergers' is, frankly, rather an insult to those with Aspergers' syndrome...

    ... as an example, if Isaac Newton were around today he'd almost certainly receive a diagnosis of Aspergers', and whilst he was (as is classic) aggresively self-centered, found it difficult to empathise with the viewpoints/thought processes of others, prone to diving into a subject to the exclusion of all else...

    he did at least add some value to the world, unlike Salmond in particular and the SNP in general.

    Anyway... in naafi, and this combined with previous post with way too many long words for post-closing time, leaves me feeling this has overbalanced things, so perhaps I should suggest he gets a dry bumming

    stapd
     
  6. I think we should stay together and halfwits like Salmon permenantly removed. When BP were capping the rig in the Gulf of Mexico why couldn't they have strapped that idiot to the side of the steel shell?

    Any way, as has been proven before Scotland does not want indepence. It could not survive financially on it's own, a fact that the SNP seem to forget, small population with high unemployment doesn't equal a lot of money for a Government to use. Yes, we need to think about Scotland the fact that what might be ok for the rest of the UK might not be good for Scotland but why the fcuk gives the SNP the right to think that with half a million votes they think that they have that much influence that we should be at their beck and call? Clearly Scotland doesn't like Conservatives or Lib Dems but it the majority of the UK we didn't want Labour and the popular vote showed this. It's called democracy. If you want to try for a majority enter more candidates. Untill you've got more than 1/20 of the Conservative votes go away and leave the big boys to concentrate on bigger issues.
     
  7. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    VG, we've disagreed, but give a guy a chance, its late and I''m tired, what does this mean?

    It's not a piss take but a call for a pause while I consult a dictionary. ;)
     
  8. I'm sick and tired of being ruled over in England-by Scots.
     
  9. Scottish and I have not voted.

    You need to include another alternative.

    Referendum.
     
  10. Why the fuck didn't you say so in the first place? :p
     
  11. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    Now that I'm beginning to increasingly agree with.

    The Jocks are telling us how much we are a problem, ok crack on.

    So Jocks, do you want in or out? As an Englishman I want in, but Jocks in my opinion want out.

    I suggest they vote for it and lets make it real.

    Go ahead and vote, I am so tired of the animosity and nastiness.

    Edited for getting the wrong thread.

    But Jocks, do you want in or out, I think you wan't out and as an Englishman am prepared to support your independence via my MP.
     
  12. Scottish and want to stay in, thank you.

    I would also like to do away with the Scottish Assembly too please!

    Before Scotland voted on that issue I asked why? What is the point? A question that from what I see now has the answer " To provide jobs, power and ago massaging for a large number of second and third rate politicians. To greatly increase the number of useless, unproductive civil service roles and create the biggest embarrassment to the country since the Bay City Rollers"

    In all the above, they have succeeded beyond expectations. Doing anything use full for the population, or making any improvements that could have been done by the Westminster MPs, not so much, no, can't think of anything.

    The SNP want power. To get it they will blame the English, the rich the Conservatives and anyone else they think will get them a vote. Following the plan they will give everything away to stay in power and when they find the purse is empty, they will also find that true to another tradition, the rich, the Conservitives and the English have buggered off and there is no one left to tax. Some other party might make it work but not a party as deeply rooted in socialist/labour ways.
     
  13. Why is it the English are more obsessed with this than we are? Most people up here have much more to worry about than what the SNP are moaning about this week, my two pence worth have a referendum and take it from there contrary to what we all think we may be surprised at the outcome and can finally put this to rest. The SNP are in power up here only as we have no other national way of voting against the Labour Party.
     
  14. I lived in Glasgow 1966-69 and Moray (guess my regular service) 1974-8. There was a constant undercurrent of sour chippiness both locally and nationally (in Scotland). As far as I can see, that hasn't changed. They are all ungrateful welfare colonists. I say sod the lot of them. It's time to cut the rope.
     
  15. What is this obsession with you English?

    For the 4 millionth time it isn't going to happen. If and when Fishy Salmond puts it before the Scottish Parliament it will be defeated.

    Since it is in the NAAFI - keep sending the money :)