SAVE THE SCOTTISH REGIMENTS APPEAL

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  1. Please visit the our website to read the latest news re the fight to Save the six Scottish Regiments, lend any support you can and perhaps also pass on the word of our appeal.

    Formation day is drawing close and we are still fighting the ill-conceived plans to disband the Royal Scots and merge them with the Kings Own Scottish Borderers and also the further amalgamation of the remaining five Scottish Regiments.

    Please follow the link below to visit the site

    Save the Scottish Regiments

    Thank you for your time in reading this.

    Anne McMillan
    Save the Scottish Regiments.
     

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  2. All very honourable but why didn't the Scottish Colonels save their own Regiments? I feel that it's a done deal whether you like it or not.

    Those who could have helped opted for a better pension.
     
  3. Dear Anne, thank you and of course it is perfectly legitimate for you to bring this to the attention of members here.

    Just a personal view: I do not like your campaign's adaptation of the Royal Regiment of Scotland badge, clever graphics or not. I realise that feelings are running very high amongst your supporters, so perhaps this sort of thing is to be expected.

    I was appalled to read somewhere that when the new Highlanders regiment first paraded along Union Street Aberdeen after their amalgamation in 1994, bayonets fixed and Colours carried, there were lunatics on the pavement turning their backs to show their disdain. (Nothing like that happened when the regiment paraded through the Highlands, where opposition to the amalgamation had been just as strong.)

    You have campaigned well but if your supporters ever contemplated pulling a stunt like that, I would say - to hell with you all.
     
  4. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    Well said hackle. I have been one of the dissenting voices regarding the way the infantry as a whole and especially the Scottish Regiments have been treated. But to put out a design like this mocking the cap badge which will be worn by our Scottish soldiers, some of whom will lose their lives, is a disgrace.

    This does the Save the Scottish Regiments campaign no good whatsoever and is an ill-conceived idea which should be stopped now.

    IMHO

    A-Y
     
  5. As a serving 1BW soldier I think I speak for some of us when I say I support 100% the campaign to Save the Scottish Regiments. None of us have had a voice in the formation of the RRS.

    As for the badge I think it sums up quite accurately the feelings of a lot of us.

    Keep on keeping on ..

    The one's who say stop I doubt did very much other than type from their armchairs who they supported the campaign - did they do anything else!

    Andrew - 1BW
     
  6. Andrew/Anne..................you're obvioulsy the same person so if you haven't the courage to stand up and argue your point even from the safety of one false identity, you'll not get much respect hiding behind another and pretending that you have a supporter in a thread where you have lost the arguement already.

    You can sling mud all you want, it's going to happen whether you accept it or not.

    Now why don't you go and have a go at the Officers who sold you out in favour of their own financial security instead of banging on here and boring the arrse off all of us.

    I doubt also that you speak for every Scottih Infantry soldier Anne and as for the 'Doomed to FAil'......well, I doubt that it will, but if you have so little respect for those who you 'support', that lessens the strength of your argument as well.

    WHo are you going to be next Anne?...Shuggy, Tam, Boab?..........don't let this get like 'Stars in Their EYes' An. It's been done so mnay times on this site and we'll just think that you really are an arrsehole. ANd you'll not gain any support when that happens. Now go and lie down.
     
  7. Biscuits ... why don't you accept that your view is not the only view. Are you somehow physic and can tell by looking at a post that Anne and myself are the same? You are clearly a bit of a fool.

    The only person that seems to have lost the arguement and the plot by the looks of things is yourself.

    It's armchair critics like yourself who like to think they represent us serving soldiers - well you don't. We are in Belfast at the moment and we are looking at your postings having a wee laugh.

    Good on you Anne - keep rubbing their noses in. The new badge is pish .. and most of us coudnae give a toss for it ;-)
     
  8. Anne your stand has to be commendable.But due to the severe lack of enthusiasm from the so called people of Scotland,the regiments are destined for the bin in a few years.Phoney Tony and his band of muppets don't give a flying phuck about Scotland and as for the Scottish Parliament, well I mean Jack McConnell as our first minister, this numptie should have been a binman with his knowledge of the Scottish people and their one sided politics.I would be glad to contribute to the argument if it was going somewhere but no, we're aw deid! :cry: :cry:
     
  9. Firstly let me apologise if I have caused offence re the badge as this was not intended. It was crafted by people who care for the Regiments and sadly feel that yes, it is doomed to failure in particular due to recruitment dropping rapidly and the gross overstretch being faced. Also with the restructure now being faced in the Territorial Army( SEE SCRIPT BELOW FROM THE SCOTSMAN NEWPAPER ON SATURDAY) it is only going to get worse I am sure you must agree.

    I speak to serving soldiers families and friends and indeed serving soldiers and this is not the message I get from them. The only pro RRS people are the ones who are in this to rise up the ranks and get big fat pensions and yes I will go the Officers forum and post that. I have great respect for every British soldier and not only the Scottish Regiments who in my eyes do a fantastic job. Please do not ever dare to accuse me of not caring or why indeed have I spend the best part of 18 months fighting for the campaign? I do have a life outside this and a job to hld down but I do it because I care and for no other reason.

    Now secondly I am not the same person as Andrew. If your webmaster cares to check the IP addresses I am sure he will find that each posting is seperate. If I have something to say believe me I will say it as Anne (my real name) and no one else.

    We have never conducted a disprespectful or disruptive campaign and never will of that I assure you.

    Anne McMillan
    STSR

    SCOTSMAN ARTICLE
    Government targets Territorials in new round of army cuts
    GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN CHIEF NEWS CORRESPONDENT THE SCOTSMAN
    THE government is set to announce another round of drastic cuts to Britain's over-stretched infantry as part of a radical shake-up of the Territorial Army, The Scotsman has learned.
    At least one territorial infantry regiment is to be axed and three centres will be closed as part of the changes to be announced by John Reid, the Defence Secretary, within the next two weeks.
    Historic regimental names will disappear as the TA units are amalgamated into the new super-regiments that the government has deemed essential to the overall restructuring of the British Army.
    In Scotland, that will mean that the Lowland and Highland regiments become the 6th and 7th battalions respectively of the Royal Regiment of Scotland. The plans, which will effectively see the part-time force merge into the regular army, is set to be every bit as controversial as the recent loss of four regular infantry battalions and the amalgamation of the Scottish regiments.
    Many soldiers who signed up to serve as part-time infantry will find that their role has been abolished. Instead, the MoD intends to try to persuade them to take on new tasks to fill the gaping holes in its ranks of specialists left by previous defence cuts.
    The timing could hardly be worse, with the infantry already pared down to the minimum required for operations and British troops committed indefinitely to Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Mr Reid recently revealed that gaps between deployments for regular infantry units had shrunk to 21 months from the recommended 24 months.
    Mr Reid is expected to announce the closure of a number of TA centres, leaving volunteers facing long journeys to training sessions if they want to remain in uniform. Many are expected to quit.
    Yesterday Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, said he could not understand how the government thought it could cut budgets while increasing the demands on the army.
    "At a time when the services are already overstretched, to be reducing the infantry does seem to be counter-productive," he said. "The government keeps increasing the number of commitments but there has been an overall reduction in the armed forces and reductions in the proportion of GDP spent on them. How the government can consider reductions in size seems baffling, to say the least."
    Jeff Duncan, spokesman for the Save the Scottish Regiments campaign, accused the government of undermining the morale, history and recruitment of the TA. "Now it is the turn of the TA to suffer the same disgraceful and humiliating treatment that has been dished out to the Scottish regiments," he said.
    The army is acutely conscious that the moves will be controversial. A spokesman for HQ Land Command, which is tasked with delivering and sustaining the army's operational capability, said:
    "There will be an overall change in infantry numbers. They may attract some criticism, but you have to leave it to the army. We have looked at it long and hard. There has been an 18-month consultation exercise finding the best way forward."
    The infantry is already stretched to the limits and has relied heavily on the TA to make up the numbers in Iraq, with about 11,500 soldiers deployed since the start of the war in 2003.
    Officers and senior NCOs say that they have integrated well and have done much to rid themselves of the "weekend warriors" tag.
    But the additional demands on its members have taken their toll on retention figures and about 13,500 have resigned in the same period.
    Some have expressed concern about the length of deployments - up to nine months in some cases once training is included - and there have been problems with unsympathetic employers who have refused to keep jobs open for those who volunteer for duty.
     
  10. Tartan Jock

    Sadly I think you are right and agree with every word you say. However as long as I have breath in my body I will keep fighting - I owe them that much.

    Thanks for your support.

    Anne
     
  11. Before you go branding anyone a fool Anne, I don't think 'Physic' was the word you were looking for. I have never said that my view was the only one. Show me where I have said that? Armchair critic? Why would I wish to be anything else, I 'couldnae' give a sh*t if the KOSB end up being amalgamated with the Royal Scots, the RLC or the Gurkhas, so please refrain from this 'Scottish' attitude of 'with us or against us'. It's dull.

    I hope Anne that you are not in Belfast at the moment, the quarters in Hollywood are 'keech'. Not that Belfast is any more dangerous than Dundee. In fact, I'd rate Kirkton as being more of a no go area than Whiterock.

    Rubbing my nose in it? Rubbing my nose in what? I don't care if they disband you, or amalgamate you. It's no skin of my nose.

    What arguement have I lost? Typical Jock. Can't see beyond your own ranting. I'm not arguing with you. I'm merely stating that your campaign, although admirable, is over and you should accept it. No point in having a go at me 'Anne', you should be phoning up the Officers who sold you all down the Swanny.

    I'd like to thank you for having a 'wee laugh' at my postings. Most of them were intended as humour and it's 'braw' that you've just spread my fan base a 'wee' bit further.

    Now 'Anne', get a grip on reality, I'm sure that you've better things to be doing than making an arrse of yourself on a website...................get your husbands dinner on Anne. He'll be 'hame fae the NAAFI' soon and he'll have had a skin full of 'wife beater' and I'm sure that you know better than most what he's like with a drink inside him.

    Good on ye Anne! Muppet.
     
  12. Och, what have I started this time. Anne, thanks for replying about the 'mock' badge.
     
  13. msr

    msr LE

    I can't help thinking that your efforts should be dedicated towards 'Pride in our new Scottish Regiment', it will have a lot more benefit in both the short and long term.

    msr
     
  14. Before you go branding anyone a fool Anne, I don't think 'Physic' was the word you were looking for. I have never said that my view was the only one. Show me where I have said that? Armchair critic? Why would I wish to be anything else, I 'couldnae' give a sh*t if the KOSB end up being amalgamated with the Royal Scots, the RLC or the Gurkhas, so please refrain from this 'Scottish' attitude of 'with us or against us'. It's dull.

    *** FIRSTLY - YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY STUPID IF YOU CANNOT GET MY NAME RIGHT ****

    *** SECONDLY - YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ENGLISH ATTITUDE AND STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DOES NOT SHINE - of course that could be your brain or yer arse - SAME THING REALLY ****


    Rubbing my nose in it? Rubbing my nose in what? I don't care if they disband you, or amalgamate you. It's no skin of my nose.

    *** OBVIOUS THAT YOUR ANTI-SCOTTISH RANT IS COMING MORE TO THE FOREFRONT AND THAT YOU ARE NOT SO MUCH ABOOT BEING REASONED THAT HAVING AGO AT ANYTHING SCOTTISH - THAT IS DULL! *****


    I'd like to thank you for having a 'wee laugh' at my postings. Most of them were intended as humour and it's 'braw' that you've just spread my fan base a 'wee' bit further.

    * * * I THINK YOU MISSED THE IRONY AND SARCASM OF THE POSTING - IT'S YOU AS A PERSON THAT WE ARE LAUGHING AT * * *

    Now 'Anne', get a grip on reality, I'm sure that you've better things to be doing than making an arrse of yourself on a website...................get your husbands dinner on Anne. He'll be 'hame fae the NAAFI' soon and he'll have had a skin full of 'wife beater' and I'm sure that you know better than most what he's like with a drink inside him.

    Good on ye Anne! Muppet.

    * * * GUESS MOST FOLK CAN MAKE OF YOUR CRAP LAST PARAGRAPH WHAT THEY WILL - SUFFICE TO SAY YOU COME ACROSS AS A REALLY THICK NUMBSKILL WE PRECIOUS LITTLE TO DEBATE RATHER MORE OF WEE ENGLANDER FAE THE SHIRES ****
     
  15. WE THE GREATEST RESPECT MOD - IF EVERYBODY GAVE IN SO EASY THEN WE WOULD BE SPEAKING GERMAN.

    SOME THINGS ARE WORTH FIGHTING FOR AND THIS NEW ABORTION OF A BADGE AND REGIMENTAL TOSH - AINT ONE OF THEM!
     
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