Saudi Journalist Disappears in Saudi Consulate in Turkey

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
Book Reviewer
Yes, but where are the bits? Did they burn them, as one theory goes, or did they bury them in the Turkish countryside, according to another theory?
Dinner?
 
Interesting story on my bing page this morning which tells the tale of the whole sordid affair. It describes the reasons behind the 'vanishing', and the players involved on all three sides - Saudi dissidents, Saudi officialdom, and of course those in the west who stuck their heads in the sand.

Here ===> The story of Jamal Khashoggi's murder and how the world looked the other way
 
Interesting story on my bing page this morning which tells the tale of the whole sordid affair. It describes the reasons behind the 'vanishing', and the players involved on all three sides - Saudi dissidents, Saudi officialdom, and of course those in the west who stuck their heads in the sand.

Here ===> The story of Jamal Khashoggi's murder and how the world looked the other way
You actually use Bing? I do like their wallpapers which you can download though...
 
Get it while it is hot off the press and in their case could say the pen is mightier than the sword.


Being honest who really gives a f**k, most people accept that much of the ME is occupied by people whose ideas of freedom/democracy/religion are far removed from the UK. WTF are we as brits expected to do about it, it appears that one of the Saudi nationals got uppity with the ruling Sheik, but as most people are aware, the laws and subsequent punishment for breaking them are truly dark ages stuff.
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Five sentenced to death. Three more sentenced to imprisonment of 24 years between them:
Saudi Arabia’s public prosecutor said on Monday five people had been sentenced to death and three more to jail terms totalling 24 years over the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul in October last year.

Khashoggi was a U.S. resident and critic of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the kingdom’s de facto ruler. He was last seen at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2, 2018, where he was to receive papers ahead of his wedding. His body was reportedly dismembered and removed from the building, and his remains have not been found.

The killing caused a global uproar, tarnishing the crown prince’s image. The CIA and some Western governments have said they believe Prince Mohammed ordered the killing, but Saudi officials say he had no role. Eleven Saudi suspects were put on trial over his death in secretive proceedings in Riyadh.
A former high profile royal advisor Saud al-Qahtani was apparently investigated, not charged and released:
Saudi Public Prosecutor Shalaan al-Shalaan, reading out the preliminary verdict in the trial, also said Saud al-Qahtani, a former high-profile Saudi royal adviser, had been investigated but was not charged and was released.
 

Slime

LE
Five sentenced to death. Three more sentenced to imprisonment of 24 years between them:

A former high profile royal advisor Saud al-Qahtani was apparently investigated, not charged and released:
imho this result was pretty much predictable. It’s certainly no surprise that lower order people have been sentenced, while others were absolved.
 

Hippohunter

Old-Salt
The only thing certain is that none of this 8 are any of the main players and probably had nothing to do with it at all. In the west's clamour for justice hey did not take into account the inevitable outcome would be some sacrificial lamb. 8 probably innocent people convicted and the guilty walk free. Had the west said nothing the guilty would still be walking free and as would 8 innocents.
 
8 unlucky souls turn up in court on minor charges in Rhyad for saying something about halibut and Jehovah and the next thing you know they're in the main square having blocks of concrete dumped on their heads!
Still as long as someone is found guilty eh.
 
The only thing certain is that none of this 8 are any of the main players and probably had nothing to do with it at all. In the west's clamour for justice hey did not take into account the inevitable outcome would be some sacrificial lamb. 8 probably innocent people convicted and the guilty walk free. Had the west said nothing the guilty would still be walking free and as would 8 innocents.
:Rant on
The west's clamour for justice rarely takes into consideration the necks of scapegoats. It's for us to point out the faults, not deal with the consequences. We can always be relied on to do the right thing in our own eyes.
:Rant off
 
imho this result was pretty much predictable. It’s certainly no surprise that lower order people have been sentenced, while others were absolved.
Yes indeed; as sure as night follows day. I'm sure someone will be TRUMPeting the result as good judicial practice and the reason the USA remains their friend.

'Saudi Arabia's closed-door trial into the murder of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi is a "mockery," says UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial killings Agnes Callamard. "The hit-men are guilty, sentenced to death. The masterminds not only walk free. They have barely been touched by the investigation and the trial. That is the antithesis of Justice. It is a mockery," Callamard tweeted on Monday.

'Callamard, who investigated Khashoggi's murder, also said that "impunity for the killing of a journalist commonly reveals political repression, corruption, abuse of power, propaganda, and even international complicity. All are present in #SaudiArabia." She said there should have been an investigation to identify the masterminds, "as well as those who incited, allowed or turned a blind eye to the murder, such as the Crown Prince," referring to Mohammed bin Salman. On Monday it was announced that a Saudi court had sentenced five people to death for the killing of Khashoogi and another three to jail terms.'


 
The UK has, as expected, adopted the 'don't do that again or we'll definitely tell you not to do that again' diplomatic approach.

We have a long history of ex-public school diplomats, adventurers and homosexuals who are traditionally attracted to and overawed by Arabs and all things Arab. Couple this with the inherent British vice of avarice and it is little wonder that the RSA feel free to do exactly as they please without any fear of consequences.
 
The UK has, as expected, adopted the 'don't do that again or we'll definitely tell you not to do that again' diplomatic approach.

We have a long history of ex-public school diplomats, adventurers and homosexuals who are traditionally attracted to and overawed by Arabs and all things Arab. Couple this with the inherent British vice of avarice and it is little wonder that the RSA feel free to do exactly as they please without any fear of consequences.
Only following our bilgiest buddy's lead.

'The United States said on Monday that the verdicts in the murder of Saudi citizen Jamal Khashoggi were a significant step in achieving justice. A senior US official said the verdicts were "an important step" in holding those responsible for the crime accountable and encouraged Saudi Arabia to continue with a fair and transparent judicial process, reported Reuters.'


Unsurprisingly, given their rivalry for leadership of the Islamic world, the Turks are having none of it.

'Turkey said on Monday that Saudi Arabia’s decision to sentence five people to death and three more to jail terms for the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi was far from serving justice, and repeated its call judicial cooperation with Saudi authorities.'

 
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Strong contender for tweet of the year.

 

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