Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by ObnoxiousJockGit, Aug 12, 2008.
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Well surely that vindicates Tony's decision to call off the Serious Fraud Office. Moral absolutes are only absolute in a relative sense. I wonder how smug the millionaire socialist Tony Blair is feeling now.
Perhaps they can be persuaded to buy another 232 and we could then either buy some JSF for the new carriers or maybe even something that would have utility in our current theatres of operation?
Hmmm ... American article, so we accept that a fact?
However, I do like Ethel's idea of possibly giving the Saudi's some of the RAF's production ... unless things have gone too far contractually to allow re-labelling airframes on the production line. Certainly some re-appraisal of the RAF's buy might [I emphasise might] be appropriate in view of the changed world.
But please let's not end up with loads of different aircraft types, all with different requirements for training, support, maintenance, hardware/software ... and with different capabilities.
The news does seem a bit sudden, Strategy Page are usually fairly reliable....and fairly Redneck for that matter! I've just Googled the topic and it's being reported elsewhere.
without wishing to go too much against the grain here, I would think that the RAF should be applauded for its foresight in getting an iron-clad contract in place before the labour governemnt started disbanding HM armed forces. If only the navy had done the same, they wouldn't now be left with, well, not very much!
Are these British sales or are we selling on behalf of the consortium-never mind who gets to punt their tranche?
Strategypage, reliable? Well, I suppose that the basic stories are usually fairly close, but the detail ranges from poor to appalling.
Still, there seems to be an implication that the RAF might be able to move some of their orders sideways [the only way to go ].
And Project Salam to you, Kingdom of Saud ... phew \'
I thought the Eurofighter was proving quite good? Could we be selling off the future crown jewels again?
It's changing by the hour in Georgia....
Given events in Georgia this week I would suggest that the RAF will have a pretty good case for keeping the whole 232 on order and not punting some off to the Saudi's. A few other countries in Europe will also now be reviewing their defence strategies as well.
The Eurofighter group has said no plans have currently been made to cut anybodies order, however, just as with the first batch that SA signed on for, we will probably give them some of our slots in the queue so they can get their planes nice and early
I don't know why people on this board seem intent on cutting our eurofighter procurement, frankly 232 is actually rather less than we need, no matter how many f-35s we get, remember we need to replace Tornado, Harrier (incuding the Sea Harriers that Broon binned early so he could sell them to india), and Jaguar (again binned too early), the RAF and FAA should operate a total of roughly 600 fast jets (about 90 for the FAA), right now it looks like we'll be lucky to get 400, so stop bloody moaning.
The more we sell outside the consortium the cheaper the unit price, isn't that correct? Oh yes, I believe India are getting their Jaguars upgraded btw.
I have to say given the sorry record of our current administration, it wouldn't be at all surprising if it was the RAF production that is being sold off.
Letâs face it this excuse for a government have more in common with Moscow than they do with London. Donning the tin foil would it really be beyond them to actively weaken British defence for their greater purpose and ideals?
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