Saudi Arabia focus of terrorist funding report, but Home Office may not publish report due to...

#61
It always amazes me that while the rest of us will have to queue up and remove our belts, shoes etc. When going through airport security checks. while the likes of the Bin Laden family would simply fly in on their private jets, in small airports and be met on the tarmac by their limos, with no checks at all. A fact that we would no doubt still be blissfully unaware of were it not for the fact that Osama Bin Laden’s mother and sister had not creamed in on Blackbush airport runway.
Clouds and Silver linings and all that....

I would venture a question as to why close members of Bin Ladens family were allowed entry to the UK.
 
#63
Well then, we can expect Corbyn to really push for the release of this Home Office report as to expose the extent of Saudi collusion with the Conservative party and also with 'New Labour, members present and retired.

Home Office refuses to publish terrorist funding report amid claims it focuses on Saudi Arabia

The thing is about the real left is that they actually understand Islam has an political doctrine, which has to be countered once it has been used to weaken the lefts enemies.

I never though I would be saying this but come on Jeremy!
 
#64
It always amazes me that while the rest of us will have to queue up and remove our belts, shoes etc. When going through airport security checks. while the likes of the Bin Laden family would simply fly in on their private jets, in small airports and be met on the tarmac by their limos, with no checks at all. A fact that we would no doubt still be blissfully unaware of were it not for the fact that Osama Bin Laden’s mother and sister had not creamed in on Blackbush airport runway.

When you can explain why anyone would want to blow only themselves and family members out of the sky when in a private jet....

Oh, and they still get screened, just in a different area from you plebs
 
#67
At Blackbush????
They still get checked, and since the risk factor is reduced considerably as "Terrorist only blows up himself and immediate family" is not exactly something that would be seen as a success the procedure will be different

Therefore the screening is more "risk assessed" but still happens, you don't see it.

Blackbush is irrelevant as I don't remember said family members having anything to do with what Bin Liner was doing, and private jets land in many more places than only there.

You're moonhowling over someone because of their name, best you think things through a bit first before your next post
 
#68
Well then, we can expect Corbyn to really push for the release of this Home Office report as to expose the extent of Saudi collusion with the Conservative party and also with 'New Labour, members present and retired.

Home Office refuses to publish terrorist funding report amid claims it focuses on Saudi Arabia

The thing is about the real left is that they actually understand Islam has an political doctrine, which has to be countered once it has been used to weaken the lefts enemies.

I never though I would be saying this but come on Jeremy!
Sometimes the papers go off on the wrong tangent and don't correct it. See CASD not being independent articles ad nauseam. See articles slanted to imply that the Qatar payoff to Iranian sponsored Shia militia kidnappers was to fund AQ. Qatar are certainly in the frame for funding AQ and the MB, what Iran does with the money is down to it.

Perhaps they've done something along those lines here? So, who else, apart from Qatar has a bad rep for banking governance in the region? Where do the majority of UK terrorist funds come from and who ran the HO until recently?
 
#69
Theresa May sitting on report on foreign funding of UK extremists

A report on the foreign funding of extremism in the UK was given to Downing Street last year but Theresa May is still to decide whether to make its findings published, the prime minister has revealed.

The Green party co-leader, Caroline Lucas, said the delay in publishing the Home Office investigation, believed to focus on the influence of Saudi Arabia, “leaves question marks over whether their decision is influenced by our diplomatic ties”.

In written answers to Lucas this week, both the Home Office and Downing Street said the prime minister was personally responsible for deciding whether to release the report.

The Home Office minister Sarah Newton said: “The review into the funding of Islamist extremism in the UK was commissioned by the former prime minister and reported to the home secretary and the prime minister in 2016.

“The review has improved the government’s understanding of the nature, scale and sources of funding for Islamist extremism in the UK. Publication of the review is a decision for the prime minister.”

Theresa May sitting on report on foreign funding of UK extremists

Say it 'aint so Teresa!

This issue will destroy May, I have no confidence that she has the integrity, fortitude or acumen to publish it and the opposition will beat her bloody with it's absence.
 
#71
Well then, we can expect Corbyn to really push for the release of this Home Office report as to expose the extent of Saudi collusion with the Conservative party and also with 'New Labour, members present and retired.

Home Office refuses to publish terrorist funding report amid claims it focuses on Saudi Arabia

The thing is about the real left is that they actually understand Islam has an political doctrine, which has to be countered once it has been used to weaken the lefts enemies.

I never though I would be saying this but come on Jeremy!
The Islam that Corbyn has associated himself with is the militant Shia variety of Iran and its rabid anti -Americanism. It is very much in their interests to weaken the Sunni leadership of Saudi by tarring them as terrorist supporters, while forgetting that Iran has been bankrolling terrorists like Hezbollah for years.

He can't see it as anything but an anti colonial, anti Imperialist anti Capitalist bunch of fellow travellers.

He clearly doesn't care, or understand, that apart from a liking for corruption, imprisonment without trial, torture and military authoritarianism, Iran, Hezbollah and it's associates don't have much in common with socialism.

Corbyn may think that Labour can use Islam, but it is actually Islam of both Sunni and Shia, who are using them as a cats paw.
 
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#72
The Islam that the Corbyn has associated himself with is the militant Shia variety of Iran and its rabid anti -Americanism. It is very much in their interests to weaken the Sunni leadership of Saudi by tarring them as terrorist supporters, while forgetting that Iran has been bankrolling terrorists like Hezbollah for years.

He can't see it as anything but an anti colonial, anti Imperialist anti Capitalist bunch of fellow travellers.

He clearly doesn't care, or understand, that apart from a liking for corruption, imprisonment without trial, torture and military authoritarianism, Iran, Hezbollah and it's associates don't have much in common with socialism.

Corbyn may think that Labour can use Islam, but it is actually Islam of both Sunni and Shia, who are using them as a cats paw.
Cracking post
 
#73
#75
Unfortunately, our close links with Islam and Arabs (including the Saudis) goes back a long way. There is an established line of British Arabist adventurers, diplomats, scholars and Arabist fellow travellers including such as St John Philby (Kim Philby's father), Sir Richard Burton and T E Lawrence.

A common thread is public school, latent homosexuality and a predisposition for intrigue and treachery.

We are now enjoying the fruits of their labours.
 
#76
Well, this could be fun.

Saudi Arabia has 'clear link' to UK extremism, report says - BBC News

I look forward the report coming out later today.

Henry Jackson Society

On an aside, maybe Jezbollah can find time in his diary to attend this talk.....

Anti-Semitism: The Generic Hatred
Unfortunately the HJ society is perceived to be a bit tainted by it's own connections.

Either way, it's no secret that evil Wahabism is the ideology which most terrorists in the West follow. I wouldn't have a problem with that Wahabi network & infrastructure in the UK having a series of unfortunate accidents which sadly left them devoid of funds, real estate and manpower.

Corbyn & cos solution to Wahabism is to stop selling arms to the Saudi monarchy for some reason; Wahabi terrorists aren't using commercially bought arms to carry out terrorist attacks. I suppose undermining the British arms industry & weakening a British regional partner is the price you gotta pay if you want to boost Russia's and Iran's influence in the region.

The left wing in the UK are the secular wing of Islamic extremism. Secular wahabis if you like. Violent and non-violent Islamists in the UK would struggle if they did not have access to left-leaning legal and media support. Let's see Corbyn deal with that first before we start sabotaging jobs.
 
#77
Well, this could be fun.

Saudi Arabia has 'clear link' to UK extremism, report says - BBC News

I look forward the report coming out later today.

Henry Jackson Society

On an aside, maybe Jezbollah can find time in his diary to attend this talk.....

Anti-Semitism: The Generic Hatred
Not a brilliant report TBH, if you wanted a history of Saud investment in intolerant religion this would be it. It also mentions Qatar and Iran briefly. Of course the ideology is part of the picture but you can't look at it in isolation. It also implies the Deobandi community were better off going to Pakistan rather than KSA for religious education. Whilst not discounting Saud money in Afghanistan/Pakistan/India, they're pretty good on the radical side themselves.

It doesn't look at the Home Office, the benefits system or the intelligence services in respect of funding Islamic terrorism and groups.
 
#78
Unfortunately, our close links with Islam and Arabs (including the Saudis) goes back a long way. There is an established line of British Arabist adventurers, diplomats, scholars and Arabist fellow travellers including such as St John Philby (Kim Philby's father), Sir Richard Burton and T E Lawrence.

A common thread is public school, latent homosexuality and a predisposition for intrigue and treachery.

We are now enjoying the fruits of their labours.
Well, there is that.

But also that the British Romanticist seems to have us engaging more with the Bedu/Sheikhly culture than the urbanised Arab.

For example, Thesiger and Lawrence (two of the most iconic British links to Arabia) are both reliant on the myth of "the noble savage" and the 'purity of the desert'.

This is not all Arab society, and certainly not all Muslims.

But the British as a nation appear to have a firm hook on this aspect of a complex society.

Only half joking could we quote Walter De La Mare's
They haunt me -- her lutes and her forests;
No beauty on earth I see
But shadowed with that dream recalls
Her loveliness to me:
Still eyes look coldly upon me,
Cold voices whisper and say --
'He is crazed with the spell of far Arabia,
They have stolen his wits away.'
Of course, foreign policy should not be based on a desire to dress up

Lawrence Of Arabia GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY
 
#79
Well, there is that.

But also that the British Romanticist seems to have us engaging more with the Bedu/Sheikhly culture than the urbanised Arab.

For example, Thesiger and Lawrence (two of the most iconic British links to Arabia) are both reliant on the myth of "the noble savage" and the 'purity of the desert'.

This is not all Arab society, and certainly not all Muslims.

But the British as a nation appear to have a firm hook on this aspect of a complex society.

Only half joking could we quote Walter De La Mare's


Of course, foreign policy should not be based on a desire to dress up

Lawrence Of Arabia GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY
The Gulf Arab rulers see themselves in a remarkably similar way to yon Larry gif. Just add the odd kilo of Columbia's finest and a badly pimped roller for effect.

Whilst we need oil and gas our foreign policy isn't going to change much in respect of the gulf.
 
#80
Unfortunately, our close links with Islam and Arabs (including the Saudis) gpoes back a long way. There is an established line of British Arabist adventurers, diplomats, scholars and Arabist fellow travellers including such as St John Philby (Kim Philby's father), Sir Richard Burton and T E Lawrence.

A common thread is public school, latent homosexuality and a predisposition for intrigue and treachery.

We are now enjoying the fruits of their labours.
Lawrence wasn't a public school boy, he was the bastard son of a minor nobleman and a governess. Very clever, but an outsider all his life.

The early British Arabists were Romantics (in the Byronic 18th Century terms,) mystics and attracted by the cause of the underdog.
The Arabs were, at the time, an oppressed people under the rule of the Ottoman Turks.
The Turks were seen as the villains of the piece.
Which, of course, is the period Erdogan is seeking to emulate.
 

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