Saudi Arabia focus of terrorist funding report, but Home Office may not publish report due to...

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This reports non appearance has been widely reported and obviously after recent events its subject matter is extremely pertinent to our National security.

Are the Saudis and to a lesser extent the Qataris the root cause of Islamic radicalisation and terror attacks in the UK, as a great many British Muslims believe? It has been known for decades that the Saudis have been pumping billions into the spread of Wahhabism throughout the World, crushing all forms of moderate and tolerant Islamic practice, the kind that we in the West were mostly used to and could accept.

The issue for me is that at what point does not wanting to offend the Saudis and protecting the various Saudi largeness swilling around the Great and the Good in Westminster and the City of London, be eclipsed by the fundamental need to protect our people and culture?

Will recent events in Manchester, London Bridge and Westminster mean that this report is finally finished and published? If not then I would take it as a strong indicator that things shall remain the same.

An investigation into the foreign funding and support of jihadi groups that was authorised by David Cameron may never be published, the Home Office has admitted.

The inquiry into revenue streams for extremist groups operating in the UK was commissioned by the former prime minister and is thought to focus on Saudi Arabia, which has repeatedly been highlighted by European leaders as a funding source for Islamist jihadis.


'Sensitive' UK terror funding inquiry may never be published

Tom Brake, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman said

“You will agree with me that the protection of our country, of the British people, is the most important job of any government," he wrote. "Certainly, more important than potential trade deals with questionable regimes, which appear to be the only explanation for your reticence.

“When will this report be finished and published? And what steps do you propose to take to address one of the root causes of violent extremism in the UK?”


Mr Brake accused Ms May of adopting a “short-sighted approach” to the funding of violent Islamist groups in the UK and urged that those who fund them should be called out publicly.



Home Office refuses to publish terrorist funding report amid claims it focuses on Saudi Arabia

It comes after Home Secretary Amber Rudd suggested during a leadership debate, that UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia are good for industry.
 
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How would a balance sheet be drawn up to show the profit to British/western industry offset against the financial knock on effects to long term security/policing and associated costs?
Surely the short term financial gain is a fraction of long term repercussions right down to our education policies and cultural values (how can you apply a £ figure to those?).
 
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How would a balance sheet be drawn up to show the profit to British/western industry offset against the financial knock on effects to long term security/policing and associated costs?
Surely the short term financial gain is a fraction of long term repercussions right down to our education policies and cultural values (how can you apply a £ figure to those?).
Indeed and in answer that part in bold, start with priceless and work upwards.
 
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Yep I think we all know that they have a very, very good case, it shows just how corrupt the Establishment is in the US that it has taken so long to get to this point, were they hopping that all of the relatives would die off first?

I am sure Saudi funds distributed via lobbyists and PR firms had nothing to do with that at all.
 
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If you look at London in the mid seventies its often forgotten how this transformation from bomb damaged shit hole to first world financial capital of the world came about, it came about from a deal in the early to mid 1970's with Saudi Arabia, they were allowed to use British banks and to invest billions and billions of pounds into London's banks and property in return we got a good deal on their oil and we funded to the billions their armed forces with arms deals and training.

So in some ways Britain has funded its own terrorism by allying with these absolute cultural and social foreigners, people who are as different to us as night and day.

Also every so often I here Political and media mouth breathers telling us what a fantastic job MI5 have done to protect us, lets get this straight MI5 are arguably culpable for what they allowed in the late 1990's to the early 2000's to happen here, they allowed London to become "Londistan", the French and Americans knew this and where against it, the apparent agreement was if you do not attack Britain we will not harass "you", and evidence bares this out.

Thanking MI5 for keeping us safe is akin to a policeman pinning a medal on the chest of a man for saving the life of a drowning man, not realizing that the man who's chest he is putting that medal on is the man that threw him in in the first place.

Basically as Sadam Hussien said you reap what you sow, and British politicians are reaping what it has sown in the last forty years.
 
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Yep I think we all know that they have a very, very good case, it shows just how corrupt the Establishment is in the US that it has taken so long to get to this point, were they hopping that all of the relatives would die off first?

I am sure Saudi funds distributed via lobbyists and PR firms had nothing to do with that at all.
It has never been disclosed why airplanes were allowed to pick up certain undisclosed rich and powerful people from the rich Arab states when all other commercial and non-essential military flights were grounded in the days immediatly following 9/11 in the US and depart the country.
 
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My plums are growing fine with absolutely no help from the Saudis, although if I ever get bored with jam and want to make explosives with them I shall probably give them a call.
The ladies and gentlemen from a certain establishment at Vauxhall Bridge may want to pay you a visit and/or monitor your electronic communications from this point onwards.
 
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This reports non appearance has been widely reported and obviously after recent events its subject matter is extremely pertinent to our National security.

Are the Saudis and to a lesser extent the Qataris the root cause of Islamic radicalisation and terror attacks in the UK, as a great many British Muslims believe? It has been known for decades that the Saudis have been pumping billions into the spread of Wahhabism throughout the World, crushing all forms of moderate and tolerant Islamic practice, the kind that we in the West were mostly used to and could accept.

The issue for me is that at what point does not wanting to offend the Saudis and protecting the various Saudi largeness swilling around the Great and the Good in Westminster and the City of London, be eclipsed by the fundamental need to protect our people and culture?

Will recent events in Manchester, London Bridge and Westminster mean that this report is finally finished and published? If not then I would take it as a strong indicator that things shall remain the same.




Home Office refuses to publish terrorist funding report amid claims it focuses on Saudi Arabia

Nonsense, it's all the Iranians fault.
 
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Glad you mentioned Qatar in the same breath.

Also, the UAE - Always wondered why the Middle East's answer to Western decadence has never been hit? It was an open secret that the naughty boys were told that if they hit Dubai or Abu Dhabi, they'd confiscate all their money and assets that were happily banked there.

They did actually get a bit worried when ISIS came about as they didn't play the rules as AQ did.
 
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Glad you mentioned Qatar in the same breath.

Also, the UAE - Always wondered why the Middle East's answer to Western decadence has never been hit? It was an open secret that the naughty boys were told that if they hit Dubai or Abu Dhabi, they'd confiscate all their money and assets that were happily banked there.

They did actually get a bit worried when ISIS came about as they didn't play the rules as AQ did.
Something very interesting just happened:

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, & Bahrain Cut Diplomatic Ties, Shut All Borders With Qatar

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...-announces-it-is-cutting-ties-with-Qatar.html

Did Qatar just become the fall guy? Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch (apart from the Saudis that is) and it is a start at least.

This won't be anything really to do with London Bridge or Manchester more like what the Qatari's have been doing in Sudan (against Egypt), against Bahrain, with Iran etc. And a crowd pleaser to the US and ourselves. The Qataris do fund a lot of really nasty Mosques and the likes of ISIS.
 
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It has never been disclosed why airplanes were allowed to pick up certain undisclosed rich and powerful people from the rich Arab states when all other commercial and non-essential miliatry flights were grounded in the days immediatly following 9/11 in the US and depart the country.
"It has never been disclosed" because according to Snopes it apparently didn't happen.

The claim that bin Laden family members (and other Saudis) were allowed to secretly fly out of the U.S. and back to Saudi Arabia while a government-imposed ban on air travel was in effect, all without any intervention by the FBI, has since been negated by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the “9/11 Commission”). In their final report, the commission noted..........
Flights of Fancy
 
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"It has never been disclosed" because according to Snopes it apparently didn't happen.

The claim that bin Laden family members (and other Saudis) were allowed to secretly fly out of the U.S. and back to Saudi Arabia while a government-imposed ban on air travel was in effect, all without any intervention by the FBI, has since been negated by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the “9/11 Commission”). In their final report, the commission noted..........
Flights of Fancy
The source(s) reporting these flights was (IIRC) highly credible. The date of the report, in 2005, during the continuing reign of the second Bush administration would, in the eyes of many, undermine the credibility of this report.

Would some of our well-placed US members care to comment further?.
 
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Something very interesting just happened:

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, & Bahrain Cut Diplomatic Ties, Shut All Borders With Qatar

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...-announces-it-is-cutting-ties-with-Qatar.html

Did Qatar just become the fall guy? Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch (apart from the Saudis that is) and it is a start at least.

This won't be anything really to do with London Bridge or Manchester more like what the Qatari's have been doing in Sudan (against Egypt), against Bahrain, with Iran etc. And a crowd pleaser to the US and ourselves. The Qataris do fund a lot of really nasty Mosques and the likes of ISIS.
This is very interesting, and could be the portent to a major confrontation in the Middle East. The only winner out of this will be Iran.
 
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The first effect of this could well see the price of oil rocket. Looking at the BBC business website, I'm surprised the price of this commodity hasn't gone north already (as of 06:20 UTC).

This is the time to top off you fuel tanks?.

*Edit, as of 07:30 UTC, there has been a slight movement upwards of Brent crude, cancelling out earlier losses, and putting the commodity into the black for the trading day.

* Strangely enough, Brent crude has ended the UK trading day around 0.58% down against Friday's close.

I guess Saudi can and will ramp up oil production to offset any losses elsewhere in the Gulf.

As they say, watch this space..........
 
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