SATS gradings-Daily Telegraph today-Nu Liabor sucess???

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Spelling and grammar are no longer seen as necessary to an education. Both children took part, ergo both achieved the same result. It's simple when you understand.

<paints crazed smile on face while eyes scream nonoNONO!!>
 
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This would be the same marking guide that gave points for a test with nothing but the words "Fuck Off" written on the answer paper?

The student was awarded marks for writing something, spelling it right and conveying meaning.

Nothing I read or hear about the edukashun system surprises me anymore.
 
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I remember reading a couple of years ago (however I can't remember where*) about a some bright spark proposing standardised spelling in the English Language.

Eg. One spelling of Their
The use of the apostrophie replaced with spelling see above.
'ee', 'ie' and 'ea' spelt the same, meet/meat


and so on.

IOT make english easier to learn, because of course, the child isn't being lazy, the language is too hard! :roll:
*Apologies for the ref. memory like a sieve...
 
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Bruin and his legions are always banging on about how much they have ''spent'' on education.Where has it all gone? Certainly not in increased standards.
 
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I have been held in contempt before but I will stick with what I have said for years.
The Labour Party always planned destroying the old education system and eventually replacing it with their idea of True Education for the masses.
john
 
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The news over the last week or so was full of the failure of an american company to deliver papers on time or marked with any accuracy.

Perhaps some colleagues on here should direct their ire in the direction of the american company which failed British children so badly.
 
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Yes they do deserve a kicking, but if this is an example of the standard of written English that can get a Level 4 (second highest I believe) then that is also of concern, and is possibly of greater concern than the failure of a company to deliver. Contracts can be canceled/penalties imposed but it takes a lot more to improve inadequate education.
 
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06FA56Paderborn said:
Yes they do deserve a kicking, but if this is an example of the standard of written English that can get a Level 4 (second highest I believe) then that is also of concern, and is possibly of greater concern than the failure of a company to deliver. Contracts can be canceled/penalties imposed but it takes a lot more to improve inadequate education.
Given the news over the last few days - do you believe that it is so?
 
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Scabster_Mooch said:
I think the point of the article is not how rubbish the marking criteria is, but how bad the markers are at sticking to the marking criteria. The headteacher summed it up when she referred to the marking as "random".
I can only agree. Our KS3 Maths and Science results/papers are nowhere to be seen. The English papers have been returned and the marks published (late). Papers have no annotation on them - no evidence of marking, or how marks have been awarded. There is an overall total mark on the front cover of each paper, but without any marking we cannot tell if the marking is accurate, or follows the proper mark scheme. Also, this means that there cannot have been any moderation or checking process to ensure that papers have been marked correctly.

My personal interest is the Science results - we are on stand-by to re-mark/check the scripts as soon as they arrive.

Can we have any trust in the system at the moment. NONE AT ALL.
 
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Is the marking quality really that bad? IMO, this invalidates all the test results. I am not in education so I do not know what impact this will have...not sure parents will be keen for their kids to take a retest.

What a massive cock up. How can such a thing ever happen? The marking of scripts is a foreseeable event, and there is no good reason why preparations for marking haven't been done. Barring something like bolt of lightning searing its way across bright sunny skies, arcing its way round the lighting conductor and striking a container load of markers frying them all to a golden crisp, I don't see how this can be explained away.

I hope UK PLC mans up and sues the coy responsible, followed by an immediate repudiation of the contract.
 
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Scabster_Mooch said:
I hope UK PLC mans up and sues the coy responsible, followed by an immediate repudiation of the contract.
We all know how the MOD writes contracts, what makes you think that this contract was written any better?

If UK PLC can by helicopters without specifying that they have to be airworthy, I think it is to be expected that this contract did not specify that the papers had to be marked correctly or on time.
 
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Doubtless, "someone who knows" will tellus that the badly spelled and ungrammatical effort showed "greater creativity and free expression" and was marked up for that
 
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Thunderer said:
The news over the last week or so was full of the failure of an american company to deliver papers on time or marked with any accuracy.

Perhaps some colleagues on here should direct their ire in the direction of the american company which failed British children so badly.
But contracting out is some much more cost effective... :x
 
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abeaumont said:
Scabster_Mooch said:
I think the point of the article is not how rubbish the marking criteria is, but how bad the markers are at sticking to the marking criteria. The headteacher summed it up when she referred to the marking as "random".
I can only agree. Our KS3 Maths and Science results/papers are nowhere to be seen. The English papers have been returned and the marks published (late). Papers have no annotation on them - no evidence of marking, or how marks have been awarded. There is an overall total mark on the front cover of each paper, but without any marking we cannot tell if the marking is accurate, or follows the proper mark scheme. Also, this means that there cannot have been any moderation or checking process to ensure that papers have been marked correctly.

My personal interest is the Science results - we are on stand-by to re-mark/check the scripts as soon as they arrive.

Can we have any trust in the system at the moment. NONE AT ALL.


It is now the end of term. Science scripts are still missing. The marks have been published, but, we are unable to check them and roughly a quarter of the students have no marks at all - as their papers have still not been marked.

No trust in the system, and as yet no evidence that we can place any reliance on the marks awarded. Those of you who have children aged 11 or 14 have every right to be just a touch annoyed. If you have children due to take the tests in the next year or two, best of luck to you!


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halo_jones said:
Thunderer said:
The news over the last week or so was full of the failure of an american company to deliver papers on time or marked with any accuracy.

Perhaps some colleagues on here should direct their ire in the direction of the american company which failed British children so badly.
But contracting out is some much more cost effective... :x
Couldn't help but notice this post.

Just when did the Dept of Ed start contracting exams and exam marking out - I seem to remember in the 70s my exams were set and marked by one company whilst others were marked by another.

They weren't SPAMs though.
 
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I can't quite work the political aspect of this one out.

After possibly the biggest marking * up in education since someone decided I'd done enough in my exams to earn a degree, Balls stands up in the Commons and gives a statement that can be summarised as 'It really, really wasn't my fault, please don't hate me, some big boys made me do it and we can't talk about it since it would stuff up my chance of replacing Gord... I mean is not in the public interest to do so because of some contract thingy I don't have the first clue about. Children? Who cares about them? It wasn't my fault, blame the QCA, the QAA, the Salvation Army, it wasn't my fault.'

And the Tories don't demand his resignation.

Does this mean that, rather like the decision to leave Hitler intact on the grounds that any successor might improve things, the Tories have concluded that Balls is such an arrse it benefits them more to leave him in place to blunder onwards and downwards? (or are they just waiting for the report on his expense claims?)
 
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