SAS Trooper Quits Illegal War

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Trooper Ben Gibson is reported to have left the SAS with an unblemished Red Book after telling his OC he didn't want to return Iraq, where he was working under US command, stating that the Americans viewed the Iraqis a 'untermenschen' and he had witnessed dozens of illegal acts caried out by US troops. He said he could no longer take part in a war he considered illegal.

Do you believe it is right or indeed practical for a soldier to refuse to take part in what is widely considered to be an illegal war since it is a soldier's duty to refuse an illegal order? And is the Iraq war illegal?
 
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Link?
 
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There is also another thread on this delboy. Out.
 
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Got to give it to him....takes massive big balls to quit on moral grounds. For the sake of my career/pension, I would have to think very long and hard to do the same.
 
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BaggyInBlack


Got to give it to him....takes massive big balls to quit on moral grounds. For the sake of my career/pension, I would have to think very long and hard to do the same.
Yeah and his boss must have some bottle to let him go, it would appear he is agreeing with Griffin's reasoning. I think someone is in for a severly hard time. Or could it be a SAS plot to get away from DELTA
 
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A lot of what he said is a fair one, however when you're in the Army you do as you're told, end of story. He should have joined Greenpeace instead of going on selection if he was that bothered. He also doesn't mention his chick who influenced him in his decision.
 
#12
Is it possible that tpr gibson was about to RTU'd, so decided to quit the Army instead.
 
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greenronnie


however when you're in the Army you do as you're told,

Thats how the SS justified their part in the Holocaust - "we were only following orders"



olongapo


Is it possible that tpr gibson was about to RTU'd, so decided to quit the Army instead.
Always a possibility, but if that was the case wouldn't he have been given a hard time, court marshalled and kicked out with a Red Book that did him no favours.
 
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greenronnie said:
A lot of what he said is a fair one, however when you're in the Army you do as you're told, end of story. He should have joined Greenpeace instead of going on selection if he was that bothered. He also doesn't mention his chick who influenced him in his decision.
Yawn... :roll:
 
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Delboy3 said:
...but if that was the case wouldn't he have been given a hard time, court marshalled and kicked out with a Red Book that did him no favours.
I think the papers say he had been regiment for 2 yrs which means he was still on a learning curve, RTU could be for any number of things, being RTU'd doesn't mean you were in trouble or a sh*te soldier just that you aren't what the regiment wants.
 
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greenronnie said:
A lot of what he said is a fair one, however when you're in the Army you do as you're told, end of story. He should have joined Greenpeace instead of going on selection if he was that bothered. He also doesn't mention his chick who influenced him in his decision.
Lets put this to the test then. If I told you to go and take your face for a shit, you'd do it then? Or would you talk back and blah blah blah...
 

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