Sarah Tather runs away bravely

#2
I'd have been more impressed if she had resigned immediately and not dragged it out until the next General Election - or resigned and fought a bi-election in her constituency under her true colours - 20 months is a long time to stick around with a face like a smacked arse.
Let's be honest here - she is a bit of a nonentity, who would never have got a sniff at a Ministerial brief without the current arrangement being in place.
 
#3
"...the moment of realising that my own party was just as afraid of public opinion as the Labour Party. "

She seems to think that her party's policies should be divorced from public opinion. Her constituents should be very glad to see the back of her. Her type of politician needs to be kept out of Parliament.
 
#4
Her type of politician needs to be kept out of Parliament.
Trouble is, it is stuffed to the rafters with precisely her type of politician - careerists, who have never held down a job in the real world. If you had a clear out, there wouldn't be much left - now there's a thought!
 
#5
Perhaps we should try and change the system from within and start an Arrse political party. I'd volunteer to stand for the Monmouthshire ward. We seem to have members all over the country, who would you stand for and how much is the deposit these days? Could it come out of funds?
 
#6
"...the moment of realising that my own party was just as afraid of public opinion as the Labour Party. "

She seems to think that her party's policies should be divorced from public opinion. Her constituents should be very glad to see the back of her. Her type of politician needs to be kept out of Parliament.
Parliament has finally woken up – because voters are keeping their MPs in line » The Spectator

Which I more or less agree with but....would we have kept going in WW2 if it was left to public opinion? If politicians only give the public what it wants we'll be in a dire state. There's a balance, they need to sell their policies and decisions, we need to remind them that they're accountable.

As Lilley notes, the public are no longer party for life voters.
 
#7
Basically, Sarah was, and remains, an unreconstructed Marxist so is unable to find an appropriate political home in any of the currently extant Parties operating in UK politics at this time.
Which same all goes to prove that if you contort a set of sincerely held beliefs for long enough your s**t gets well and truly twisted.
True, the immediate resignation of the party whip a week before the Lib Dem Party Conference would have been more damaging to the Clegg crew but I won't beat up on her for not falling on her sword, forcing a mid term bi election and creating a shoe-in for Liebor.
Whilst I vehemently oppose her shade of politics I tip my hat to her for taking the courageous decision to walk away from the Westminster trough before the cloak of her dignity became too bespattered with infamy by association.
 
#8
I tip my hat to her for taking the courageous decision to walk away from the Westminster trough before the cloak of her dignity became too bespattered with infamy by association.
She's not walking away! Despite "her principles", she will continue to draw her parliamentary salary for the next 20 months. Courageous my arse!
 
#10
You can't steer a ship from the shore.
Granted, but exactly what influence will she have on her rapidly diminishing party within the Westminster bubble? Will she have a voice and be given a respectful hearing, or will she be ignored and treated like the nonentity she is? I know where my money lies.
 
#11
Granted, but exactly what influence will she have on her rapidly diminishing party within the Westminster bubble? Will she have a voice and be given a respectful hearing, or will she be ignored and treated like the nonentity she is? I know where my money lies.
What are the alternatives? A costly unnecessary by-election which would not give a better outcome?
 
#12
Perhaps we should try and change the system from within and start an Arrse political party. I'd volunteer to stand for the Monmouthshire ward. We seem to have members all over the country, who would you stand for and how much is the deposit these days? Could it come out of funds?
Why there? Are you a Harding-Rolls?!

My nephew ran in the Monmouth Local Council elections last year. Lost by about 20 votes and has since been overseen by Labour for another post because he isn't female...
 
#13
What are the alternatives? A costly unnecessary by-election which would not give a better outcome?
It would leave a better taste in the mouth. Perhaps she could have kept her council until the date of the next General Election is announced? Still, much better to make it all about her though isn't it? Just another typical example of the shallow, celebrity obsessed no-marks we have foisted on ourselves.
 
#14
It would leave a better taste in the mouth. Perhaps she could have kept her council until the date of the next General Election is announced? Still, much better to make it all about her though isn't it? Just another typical example of the shallow, celebrity obsessed no-marks we have foisted on ourselves.
Would you rather have someone oldschool like Bill Walker MSP? She seems to have more integrity than the average politician, and the timing is probably more to do with igniting debate about her party's direction and aims at the forthcoming conference than about self-publicity. Still, why let reason get in the way of prejudice?
 
#15
She is batting nightwatchman on her wicket to prevent another Liebor seat whilst having to swallow the scowls and recriminations,the petty jibes and snide remarks...she is earning every penny.
She has not slagged her leader,despite being dropped from the chosen, buying them time to regroup and is knowingly kissing ta ta to any further political career for the sake of her principals.
Respect is earned, not bought; and earned by actions not words....this is not an easy path Sarah has decided to take, neither is it a rewarding one.
Put yourself in her shoes.....this is the not hanging onto the public tit, regardless; this is getting kicked, regardless!
 
#16
Would you rather have someone oldschool like Bill Walker MSP? She seems to have more integrity than the average politician, and the timing is probably more to do with igniting debate about her party's direction and aims at the forthcoming conference than about self-publicity. Still, why let reason get in the way of prejudice?
Prejudice has absolutely nothing to do with it, my disgust and disappointment with our Political class is spread equally across the three so called major parties. I'm entitled to my opinion, just like you are. As it happens, you seem to be a big fan of hers - care to share it with us?
 
#17
What are the alternatives? A costly unnecessary by-election which would not give a better outcome?
Would you rather have someone oldschool like Bill Walker MSP? She seems to have more integrity than the average politician, and the timing is probably more to do with igniting debate about her party's direction and aims at the forthcoming conference than about self-publicity. Still, why let reason get in the way of prejudice?
If she was sticking to her "principles" and not just declaring she was jumping before she was pushed, she would have quit as soon as the news of the "immigration bond" and the "welfare cap" was announced as something that was to be implemented. But, no, she's going to suck on the nipple for another year and a half, get all the expenses she can, keep drawing her salary, maximise the pension AND, no doubt, get the rather large lump sum for serving out her term.

That's not "principles", it's money grabbing and it shows her to be no better than any of the rest no matter what she is trying to tell everyone. She has no "integrity" as she is still going to be a part of the party she claims she is not like, she is still going to vote with them, she is still going to suck on the nipple and get every penny she can before disappearing back into the obscurity she deserves.

If she had quit because of her "principles", forcing a by-election, then she could maybe have earned some respect. Instead she has just shown herself to be the sort of egotistic fuckwit who, like so many before her, are more interested in making sure they get the expenses, the salary, the pension and the large pay-off. And that makes her at least as bad as Bill Walker, if not worse as at least he never tried to hide behind so-called "principles" whilst sucking on the public tit until it was dried and shrivelled.
 
#18
#19
If it was a matter of conscience, she could resign the party whip and represent her constituents as an independent. I have seen no indication of this happening.
 
#20
Put yourself in her shoes.....this is the not hanging onto the public tit, regardless; this is getting kicked, regardless!
No, it has everything to do with her remaining at the trough until the last possible second. She knows she will not be elected again and has decided to declare she simply cannot abide by what her party is doing anymore and is leaving.... when the election comes around. She has no principles, she is another pig at the trough who is trying to make herself look good amongst all the other pigs.
 

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