Sandhurst - for a northerner?

#1
In honestly, how do northerners get through RMAS? Are they stereotyped as being a bit rough? stupid? etc. Are there many Northerners at all?
 
#2
You're kidding, right?
 
#3
sandmanfez said:
You're kidding, right?
Whats with the Americanism - If you are American I apologise - if not - are you ashamed to use standard English?
'Your 'affin a 'laff' would be closer to 'Er Maj's English.
 
#4
Northerners and RMAS. Yeah why not? I'm a brummie (Classed as the thickest accent in the UK!) and i hope to be there soon. Its not the packaging but the determination and qualities that get you through. All these silver spooned, home counties accented, rich kids cruise through on that. At least we have the qualities required and the experience of the real army on our side!
 
#5
I don't think accent (or do you mean class?) is really the issue. The issue is the ability to communicate and thereby lead effectively. The received English pronunciation is intended to ensure that all of your boys and girls can understand you. Sadly there is still no Babel fish on G1098 so officers from "sheltered" backgrounds still get an "accent-shock" on being posted to regiments recruting from such heartlands of dialect as L'pool or Neecassel! In my case luckily I had spent three years at Durham, training as an interpreter with 101 Fd Regt, before I found myself in a hotbed of Geordies on commissioning.
 
#6
Is this a wah? They get through in exactly the same way as anyone else.

Although the tin bath strapped to the back does tend to hinder one on operations.
 
#7
Not if you are a filthy scouser.....then no one can understand what you are bleating on about and everone in the mess checks their wallet whenever you leave the room. :roll:
 
#8
Monserrat said:
sandmanfez said:
You're kidding, right?
Whats with the Americanism - If you are American I apologise - if not - are you ashamed to use standard English?
'Your 'affin a 'laff' would be closer to 'Er Maj's English.
Thats hardly an Americanism. Admittedly, I do move in very cosmopolitan circles, and many of my contacts are septics, but you understood what I meant, and that after all, is the purpose of communication.
Your "Wooster and Jeeves" image of the officer corps is slightly dated, we no longer have batmen or Webleys, and regional or class origins are of no consequence, ability is all.
 
#10
sandmanfez said:
Thats hardly an Americanism. Admittedly, I do move in very cosmopolitan circles, and many of my contacts are septics, but you understood what I meant, and that after all, is the purpose of communication.
Your "Wooster and Jeeves" image of the officer corps is slightly dated, we no longer have batmen or Webleys, and regional or class origins are of no consequence, ability is all.
All good officers should mourn the loss of the Webley. I knew several officers who should have 'done the decent thing' and retired to a room with a bottle of scotch and the Mess Webley. But they didn't. Instead the buggers got promoted. :(

Also some Messes have the civilian staff do the ironing of clothes and polish boots overnight. At 4RA this service was written into the contract as well, but one of the redoubtable ladies said that if we hung out our clothes expecting this she would melt the trousers with the iron and put drawing pins in the boots :) Not surprising considering a. All serving members should be able to admin themselves in camp and b. The mess staff were paid a pittance and worked damn hard already.
 
#11
Dread said:
All good officers should mourn the loss of the Webley
I coudnt agree more Dread, but then I'm quite old fashioned, and would welcome the return of duelling, with sword, not pistol. Perhaps not to the death, but first blood certainly. :wink:
 
#14
I currently reside in the Mess at Lisburn, where shirts and trousers are ironed daily by the staff, who look after us very well.


melt the trousers with the iron
Surely a deserving punishment for anyone who wears trousers made of other than natural fibre?
 
#18
Oh dear, I seem to have misunderstood this one. I thought you meant that you were from Northern Britain, which I understand some people refer to as Scotland. This, naturally, meant that you would be equipped with interchangable first and familial names (Fraser Cameron and all that sort of thing), that your people would reside in Surrey and that you would be familier with the family estate or, as some would call it, Ayrshire. Now I realise that you actually claim to come from Northern England. My dear chap, it says wonders for you that you have mastered reading and writing. Jolly well done. Have you thought of local government or perhaps Marks and Spencer?

<Okay. Enough stereotypes in there for you? Just on the offchance it was a serious enquiry, no problems on being a Northener, a Midlander, a Southerner or even a damned colonial type. If you've got it, the factory will spot it, get it out of you and process you into the mainstream.> ...................It will even eradicate that ghastly glottal habit and arcane eccithump delivery that you people seem to cultivate. I blame on the diet meself......
 
#19
Talking of 'eccithump', perhaps the factory could introduce self-defence lessons with particular attention towards dealing with an enemy armed with some form of black-pudding or a steel lined flat cap?? I am sure this would aid our friends from the north in setteling down. :D
 
#20
A bit of advice. Whatever you choose to do, lose a chip that Northerners are in any way different as early as possible. We are a meritocracy, and if you have what it takes to lead men (and women) then you will get through. If you carry a chip then you will disappear up your own arrse trying to be something you are not, and the soldiers you are privileged to command will see straight through it.

Good luck.
 

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