Saluting Foreign Officers

#1
Do we have to salute foreign officers?

In Basic Training we were told that we dont salute the person, but salute the Queens Commission. Obviously Foreign officers dont hold the Queens Commission, so do we have to salute them?

I seen a British WO in SHAPE saluting an American officer. I want to know if I dont salute can I be told to do so....... or if a foreign officer can tell me to salute them..

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In BLMF there were loads of foriegn officers. We never saluted them. But then I was a chef and you don't salute when wearing a chefs hat.
 

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How about British WOs saluting American WOs? :desertsoldier:

Where is Chief Two when you need him :(
 

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The myth that you have to salute people has been around for ages. It was basically a big Wah that some guys from the 15th Duke of Toxteths Light Yeomanry of Foot, dreamed up back in 1412. It has kind of continued ever since unnoticed.

Next time you see any officer, don't bother saluting. If he bollocks you, explain that it is all a Wah and he will see the funny side. There is nothing anywhere in any rules that says you have to salute anyone, even the Queen.

Gen dit.
 
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Ravers said:
The myth that you have to salute people has been around for ages. It was basically a big Wah that some guys from the 15th Duke of Toxteths Light Yeomanry of Foot, dreamed up back in 1412. It has kind of continued ever since unnoticed.

Next time you see any officer, don't bother saluting. If he bollocks you, explain that it is all a Wah and he will see the funny side. There is nothing anywhere in any rules that says you have to salute anyone, even the Queen.

Gen dit.
Delighted you've cleared that up - how silly will all those officers feel for having pulled up soldiers for not saluting!
And the Guards outside Buck House can just... relax.
 

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Auld-Yin said:
How about British WOs saluting American WOs? :desertsoldier:

Where is Chief Two when you need him :(

You realise that he has alerts set up using the 'watch this topic' function so that any time the word 'saluting' appears in a thread title it sends him an email?

He'll be along shortly. I hope you're proud of yourself.
 
#9
It is as previously stated down to Etiquette.

I remember as a Young 'Lance Comical' on Exercise Truimpet Dance in good ole US of A, myself and my Detachment walked passed this Guy in a Yellowly Jogging Suit we strolled passed and he roared at me "hey Cpl Don't you Salute Fu*king Offciers?

I sprung to attention threw up my bestest Salute and stated "I do apologise Sir I did not see any Rank Insignia, forgive me for having Gristle Balls and not Crystal"

"May I carry on Sir Please" It went straight over his Yank Heid

Please Do Cpl Cary On.......

Aye

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Ravers said:
The myth that you have to salute people has been around for ages. It was basically a big Wah that some guys from the 15th Duke of Toxteths Light Yeomanry of Foot, dreamed up back in 1412. It has kind of continued ever since unnoticed.

Next time you see any officer, don't bother saluting. If he bollocks you, explain that it is all a Wah and he will see the funny side. There is nothing anywhere in any rules that says you have to salute anyone, even the Queen.

Gen dit.
Slightly right, but slight amendment, in the 1400s, it was seen as very derogitory to show the palm of your hand. Rifleman Andrews as his little way of 'sticking it to the man' used to put his hand to his head palm facing outermost as his way to say 'fukc you' to all the officers he ever saw. A warrant officer saw this and started to reprimand the young soldier but he replied that he was simply waving in a smart and soldier like manner. The Warrant Officer liked this and enforced that all his men to do the same. It soon spread and made into a formal drill movement.
So now, every time you see an officer, especially a foreign one, make sure you stick one up for him :salut:
 
#11
When I was at Keogh doing my CMT1 I was 'duty student' and had to march the squad from the training wing down to Q Tech. We passed a Jordanian Army Officer who responded to my salute and the squad's eyes right by stopping, saluting and bowing at the same time. After we had passed we doubled down through the spiders and came out by the band hut to go round again, the third time he had disappeared and we were getting late!
 
#12
I saluted a German forest ranger once , to the complete mirth of all those around me.Looking at the resplendent uniform and the age of the chap , I assumed he was boxhead colonel.Their posties used to look bloody smart too, I seem to remember.
 
#13
We used to set saluting traps for Cloggie officers on bicycles in the icy winters in Hohne. Wait for it, wait for it EYES LEFT.

Cloggie: Argh, wobble. wobble CRASH.

EYES FRONT.
 
#14
When I was at Keogh on the final phase of the EOC we were told that as we were officers we were not expected to form up and march about. Then there were complaints that the soldiers cutting about camp were spending too much time saluting indivdual officers so could we please move about in groups. Then we were asked that if we were moving about in groups could we please form up in ranks with one of us taking charge to pay/return compliments as required.

So, sort of like forming up and marching then?

To the OP, as already said, it's a subtle way of insulting them that only Toms understand.
 
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velcrostripes said:
I saluted a German forest ranger once , to the complete mirth of all those around me.Looking at the resplendent uniform and the age of the chap , I assumed he was boxhead colonel.Their posties used to look bloody smart too, I seem to remember.
I too fell for that. I saluted the local Fire Officer when he was inspecting Glamorgan Barracks, Dusiburg.Too many moons ago to contemplate!
 
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Im trying to find a copy of QRs online, but failing miserably at the min. Have a copy at home. Will try to look it up while very drunk tonight.
 
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Thanks to a former CO of 4 Regt AAC wanting 4 Regt to be easily distinguishable from 9 Regt AAC and 71 Ac Wksp REME although they later wore dark blue berets rather than light, all and sundry at 4 Regt had to wear red and green shoulder flashes ('red to head' to make sure it was the right way round).

There was many an Air Trooper and the odd Craftsman who were saluted by a NIG in either Detmold (Hobart Barracks) or Minden (St Georges Barracks). And to totally confuse your average NIG, we had navy guys at 71 Ac Wksp and they got saluted plenty of times as well.
 

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Has anyone ever played sniper saluting?

It's a game we used to play in Portsmouth Dockyard.

For those who haven't been to the dockyard, it is a maze of sheds and buildings and is quite echoey as a result.

The game is simple. You spot a lone Officer before he has spotted you, then as he comes into range, shout ''MORNING SIR!'' and chop off a salute, then hide.

Hilarity ensues as he nervously chops one off, anxiously looking around and not being able to work out who he is saluting back.

Extra points are awarded for distance of salute and reaction of the Officer involved.

It also works well when saluting Officers on the other side of the parade square.
 

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Sixty said:
Auld-Yin said:
How about British WOs saluting American WOs? :desertsoldier:

Where is Chief Two when you need him :(

You realise that he has alerts set up using the 'watch this topic' function so that any time the word 'saluting' appears in a thread title it sends him an email?

He'll be along shortly. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Whoopeee. It is not going to be a boring weekend after all :D

Stand-by for some serious septic baiting. :twisted:
 
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Ravers said:
Has anyone ever played sniper saluting?

It's a game we used to play in Portsmouth Dockyard.

For those who haven't been to the dockyard, it is a maze of sheds and buildings and is quite echoey as a result.

The game is simple. You spot a lone Officer before he has spotted you, then as he comes into range, shout ''MORNING SIR!'' and chop off a salute, then hide.

Hilarity ensues as he nervously chops one off, anxiously looking around and not being able to work out who he is saluting back.

Extra points are awarded for distance of salute and reaction of the Officer involved.

It also works well when saluting Officers on the other side of the parade square.
Officers on bikes.

Some can ride and salute, some can't.

Fcuking hilarious when they can't.
 

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