Salmond services Two Constituencies

#1
Alex Salmond is currently MP for Buchan and Banff and MSP for Gordan. Without discussing His renumeration for the three jobs He is currently employed in, can He successfully look after two different sets of constituents AND run Scotland.

I don't think so and suggest He should resign His position as MP.

The facts surrounding Mr Salmonds circumstances
 
#2
Sorry Sven - on opposite sides again I'm afraid.

As a Welshman living in London I am a little uneasy commenting upon a Scottish gentleman and his political activities within that land.

My only concern is that he can vote upon matters affecting only those of us living in England and Wales, whilst my MP - the Honourable Member for Putney - cannot vote on matters affecting Scottish residents.

I listen though to Mr. Salmond and in my opinion he makes much more sense than anything I have heard uttered by any member of the current government for ten years or more. He appears to know what he wants and where he is going, a concept far beyond the intellectual capacity of the former 'Spiv in Chief' and the current 'Stalinist Control Freak'.

As for his emoluments, which you delicately declined to comment upon, it goes without saying that as a 'politician' it is likely that he will have a gigantic proboscis stuck firmly into an enormous diamond encrusted gold plated trough - grunt, slurp, oink.
 

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#3
lsquared said:
My only concern is that he can vote upon matters affecting only those of us living in England and Wales, whilst my MP - the Honourable Member for Putney - cannot vote on matters affecting Scottish residents.
The SNP do not vote on purely English (or indeed English/Welsh) legislation as a point of principle.
 
#4
lsquared said:
Sorry Sven - on opposite sides again I'm afraid.

As a Welshman living in London I am a little uneasy commenting upon a Scottish gentleman and his political activities within that land.

My only concern is that he can vote upon matters affecting only those of us living in England and Wales, whilst my MP - the Honourable Member for Putney - cannot vote on matters affecting Scottish residents.

I listen though to Mr. Salmond and in my opinion he makes much more sense than anything I have heard uttered by any member of the current government for ten years or more. He appears to know what he wants and where he is going, a concept far beyond the intellectual capacity of the former 'Spiv in Chief' and the current 'Stalinist Control Freak'.

As for his emoluments, which you delicately declined to comment upon, it goes without saying that as a 'politician' it is likely that he will have a gigantic proboscis stuck firmly into an enormous diamond encrusted gold plated trough - grunt, slurp, oink.
Only to the tune of (roughly) £150,000 pa
 
#5
Alex Salmond is my MP in London and the first minister of my Nation .
It is patently obvious that he will have to reliquish his Westminster postition at some time , thing is when , his workload in the Scottish parliament denies him time to attend W estminster and like many other constituents feel it should be sooner that later.

I did mention this to him .

WW
 
#6
Sven said:
Alex Salmond is currently MP for Buchan and Banff and MSP for Gordan. Without discussing His renumeration for the three jobs He is currently employed in, can He successfully look after two different sets of constituents AND run Scotland.

I don't think so and suggest He should resign His position as MP.

The facts surrounding Mr Salmonds circumstances
If it can be demonstrated that Salmond is not able to perform all three functions satisfactorily, it is right and proper he should surrender one or more. Sven, can you demonstrate that he incapable of performing all three?

Now, just out of interest. Is this a personal crusade of yours, or is it part of LibDem central office policy?
 
#7
whitecity said:
Sven said:
Alex Salmond is currently MP for Buchan and Banff and MSP for Gordan. Without discussing His renumeration for the three jobs He is currently employed in, can He successfully look after two different sets of constituents AND run Scotland.

I don't think so and suggest He should resign His position as MP.

The facts surrounding Mr Salmonds circumstances
If it can be demonstrated that Salmond is not able to perform all three functions satisfactorily, it is right and proper he should surrender one or more. Sven, can you demonstrate that he incapable of performing all three?

Now, just out of interest. Is this a personal crusade of yours, or is it part of LibDem central office policy?
Two posts does not a crusade make :D The Lib Dems are concerned with the money He is making for not turning up at Westminster which forced Him to first of all say that He would stop claiming His Westminster wage and latterly to come out with the Trust Fund thing.

I think that I would hold the same opinion of a Scottish Parliament minister of whatever hue in similar circumstances - ministers find it hard enough to do both jobs - it is impossible to represent two different constituencies and fulfill His responsibilities as First Minister
 
#8
Sven said:
Two posts does not a crusade make :D The Lib Dems are concerned with the money He is making for not turning up at Westminster which forced Him to first of all say that He would stop claiming His Westminster wage and latterly to come out with the Trust Fund thing.

I think that I would hold the same opinion of a Scottish Parliament minister of whatever hue in similar circumstances - ministers find it hard enough to do both jobs - it is impossible to represent two different constituencies and fulfill His responsibilities as First Minister
I see.

Now, if I were in wheelchairwarrier's shoes and felt a bit disenfranchised by Salmond's inability to be in two places at once, I think I'd have a right to make representations and ask him to reconsider his position.

But I'm at a loss to understand why somebody in Skipton should be so concerned. Especially when that concern is not about disenfanchisement, but about the use/drain of public funds - and its coming from somebody who is himself a drain on public funds.
 
#9
Do you think that he will give any thing while the cash is rolling in. He is picking up about £250,000.00 as an British MP the time you add up his expenses, plus his office costs and his salary, then if he get the same in Scotland then he will have a double pension to look forward to and with all that traveling he does not have time to do any work, so he can leave that to his staff and then he has time for all that private work. Very nice if you can get it.
 
#10
Personally I think he should resign his Westminster post now he is First Minister, As a Jock I think thats what he should concentrate on. His constiuency is not far from where I live and from what I hear he is an excellent MP who actually cares about his constiuents.

And the old "he can vote on English matters while my MP cant vote on Scottish matters" has been raised already. My opinion is that Scottish MP's should not vote on purely English matters. But bear in mind that the Westminster Parliament has controlled all matters in Scotland from 1707 until very recently with what ?, five times the amount of English MP's than Scottish. So the English didnt seem to mind when they basically dictated to us through their massive majority but the thought of us having a small say in what goes on in England brings all sorts of protests !!, its not like we can outvote you is it ??
 
#11
Funbags said:
My opinion is that Scottish MP's should not vote on purely English matters.
I agree, but to be fair I should point out that SNP MPs in Westminster do not vote on purely English (or Welsh or Northern Irish) matters.

SNP at Westminster

Do LibDem MPs in Westminster who represent Scottish constituencies vote on purely English, Welsh or Northern Irish matters Sven?
 
#13
I understand that the figure is one third of His MSPs salary to this end - still an awful lot but how much did He set up in a trust before He was outed?

I would also advert You to Dennis Skinners altruism, He has been donating a large portion of His (only) wage to charities for years
 
#14
Sven said:
Alex Salmond is currently MP for Buchan and Banff and MSP for Gordan. Without discussing His renumeration for the three jobs He is currently employed in, can He successfully look after two different sets of constituents AND run Scotland.

I don't think so and suggest He should resign His position as MP.

The facts surrounding Mr Salmonds circumstances
Without getting involved in the West Lothian question there is a good point here. Is it still legal for someone to be an MP, MSP and leader of the Scottish waste of money? If so, is that fair to anybody?
 
#15
Remind me Sven, did Jim Wallace set up a trust or give back any salary when he served as Deputy First Minister, MSP and MP? Did he ever vote on purely English, Welsh or Northern Irish matters in Westminster?
 
#16
Legal , but not realy fair though, as for the trust fund well proir to that he is known for his charitable trends in this part of the country , so I have no concernes about the fund .
Like many constituents here in Banff and Buchan we have been served very well by this man , with the best will in the world 3 positions of representation are untennable, I personaly believe that he would be more effective if he were to resign London.
As an aside, He is appoachable, straight talking ,ie question, reply I dont know the answer to that , I will find out . follows up matters , will look you in the eye , and likes fluffy animals too.
And I'm not even an SNP supporter and I dont usualy do politics

WW
 
#17
Despite ruling over Scotland, cashing multiple paychecks, living nearer to Santa than to Gordon Brown and representing more sheep than constituents, old Alex still manages to put in more appearances in parliament than George Galloway.

George appears to averaging 2 or 3 days a month doing the job we pay him 145 thousand mainly tax free pounds a year to do.

Nice work if you can get it.
 
#18
Soldier_Why said:
Remind me Sven, did Jim Wallace set up a trust or give back any salary when he served as Deputy First Minister, MSP and MP? Did he ever vote on purely English, Welsh or Northern Irish matters in Westminster?
 
#19
Sixty said:
lsquared said:
My only concern is that he can vote upon matters affecting only those of us living in England and Wales, whilst my MP - the Honourable Member for Putney - cannot vote on matters affecting Scottish residents.
The SNP do not vote on purely English (or indeed English/Welsh) legislation as a point of principle.
Thank you for that information. Honourable and principled politicians - a very rare breed, especially during the last ten years.

I congratulate the SNP and reiterate my respect for Mr. Salmond whose views always make sense to me, even if I do not necessarily agree with his aims.

What a difference to the wretched state of affairs in my country - Wales - where the discredited and dishonest Labour 'government' have been well and truly trounced but continue to hang on to power.

What was the idiot Blair thinking about when he 'broke up' the United Kingdom? Thank Heaven the brainless Prescott's plans to divide it up further have come to naught - so far!
 
#20
I agree we can out vote you, but all those Labour MP's keep the Labour party in power in Westminster. Now if they did not have the votes from Wales and Scotland they would lose control of this parliament and would never probably have control again
 

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