Sahil Sheed case

#1
The thick plottens:

Times article

This incident has a lot of legs yet and is becoming really intriguing. At least the Mc Canns'll have another place in the world to visit; Spain's Bradford.

Spanish police have arrested three people in connection with the kidnap of five-year-old Sahil Saeed, the British boy abducted during a family holiday in Pakistan.

Two Pakistani men and a Romanian woman were arrested yesterday after the boy's release in Punjab province and are accused of being part of a gang which allegedly charged a ransom of €87,000 (£79,000).

The three accused were detained in Constanti, a small town near Tarragona in northeast Spain which has a large Pakistani population.

Neighbours of the suspects told the Diario de Tarragona, a local newspaper, that police took away a large quantity of money.

“One neighbour also overheard a police officer commenting that they had discovered the greater part of the ransom,” the newspaper reported.

Two of those who have been arrested are believed to work in the local justice department.

The three accused, who have not been named, are expected to appear in court later this week.

Spanish police have so far refused to comment one the arrests.

Sahil, from Shaw in Lancashire, was discovered yesterday morning with his hair shorn but otherwise unharmed.

He was wandering alone without shoes in a field near Kharian City, Punjab, at 4.10am, 20 miles from where he was kidnapped by armed raiders.

Sahil was snatched on March 4 as he and his father were about to return to the UK after two-week visit to the boy's grandmother.

The kidnappers, said to be armed with grenades, held the family at gunpoint for several hours and stole 150,000 rupees (£1,200) and were said to have demanded a £100,000 ransom.

The case has been mired in confusion and mystery from the start when senior Pakistani officials speculated that someone close to the family knew something about the kidnapping. This was denied by the family.

Sahil’s father, Raja Naqqash Saeed, flew home to England a week ago, against the wishes of the Pakistani authorities who wanted him to remain to help to identify any potential witnesses.

Since then he has worked closely alongside detectives from Greater Manchester Police, who were liaising with Pakistani authorities, but he has not been seen in public. Officers have insisted that he was not under arrest.

Rana Sanaullah, the law minister of Punjab province, said that a ransom was paid to an international gang for the boy’s return, prompting speculation that Mr Saeed had returned home to raise the money.

The British and Pakistani authorities are continuing to liaise in the investigation to catch the kidnappers. David Thompson, Assistant Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police, said that his force had given considerable support to their Pakistani counterparts over the past 12 days and that it remains a “fast-moving international inquiry”. He refused to be drawn about whether a ransom was paid or how money changed hands.

He said: “This still remains a very active criminal investigation and Greater Manchester Police and the Pakistani authorities are still determined to bring people to justice, and that will be a high priority in the coming hours, days and weeks.”
 
#2
BrandySoured said:
The thick plottens:

Times article

This incident has a lot of legs yet and is becoming really intriguing. At least the Mc Canns'll have another place in the world to visit; Spain's Bradford.

Spanish police have arrested three people in connection with the kidnap of five-year-old Sahil Saeed, the British boy abducted during a family holiday in Pakistan.......

....He said: “This still remains a very active criminal investigation and Greater Manchester Police and the Pakistani authorities are still determined to bring people to justice, and that will be a high priority in the coming hours, days and weeks.”
I hope I don't have a tendency to get into tin-foil territory here,
but when I heard the mother say she couldn't fly out to Pakistan after her son had disappeared was because her husband had left her and had taken her passport to Pakistan so that she couldn't fly out after him, it didn't ring true.

Not impossible but its the first time I've heard of anyone walking out on their wife, taking wife's passport- destroying it perhaps I could understand.

The fact that he was the second husband that she had 'imported' from Pakistan only served to increase my doubt.

Of course, I don't know the truth but cynic that I am, if she had said "My husband and son have gone on holiday to Pakistan and my sister-in-law is coming to settle in UK using my passport", I would have given it more credence.

Of course if estranged husband and wife now have a sudden reconcilliation, it will only serve to strengthen my theory!
 
#3
T-50, have you any links as to your claims as I can't seem to find anything?
 
#4
Fat_Cav said:
T-50, have you any links as to your claims as I can't seem to find anything?
Here's a source for the passport story, sorry it's only the Daily Mail but it's the first thrown up by the search engine that I have on my PC. These stories are quite often syndicated so it's likely to have appeared elsewhere.

I daresay that I could find you a source about the second husband from Pakistan-wait on on that one.

Husband takes Mum's passport to Pakistan
 
#6
Tawahi-50 said:
Fat_Cav said:
T-50, have you any links as to your claims as I can't seem to find anything?
Here's a source for the passport story, sorry it's only the Daily Mail but it's the first thrown up by the search engine that I have on my PC. These stories are quite often syndicated so it's likely to have appeared elsewhere.

I daresay that I could find you a source about the second husband from Pakistan-wait on on that one.

Husband takes Mum's passport to Pakistan
Cheers, the story has always been fishy for one reason or another. Also I never get surprised after the events when all the 'truths' and rumours come out regarding the parents/uncles etc.
Think -
Bulger Mother shoplifting (allegedly)
McCanns dining habits
Matthews mum - affair/involved; Step-dad -Paedo

I suspected the Dad had returned for the cash? Also it was obvious he was the Tourist Groom and she the local Oldham lass.

Returning to see a sick parent. Oh Pleeease. How original! :roll:
 
#9
When he gets back to his HOME in Oldham, he can sell his story to the Currant Bun/News of the Screws and earn a nice few bob.

The folk in Pakistan got a few bob few their troubles, everyone's a winner.

Magic
 
#10
Something about the whole story didn't ring quite right.

Why did the father, who seemed very calm etc. on TV, against the advise of local experts fly home to UK, thousands of miles from where his son was still being held?
 
#11
grumpyoldb said:
Cpl_ripper said:
Times article

Sahil, from Shaw in Lancashire,
You mean Shaw, Oldham, Greater Manchester? Basic fact's would be a good start.
Oldham IS in Lancashire. FACT. We don't have Manchester postcodes either so we are not in manch.
Shaw and Crompton is a town and civil parish within the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham, in Greater Manchester, England. Please step out of 1974 and into 2010.
 
#12
Cpl_ripper said:
grumpyoldb said:
Cpl_ripper said:
Times article

Sahil, from Shaw in Lancashire,
You mean Shaw, Oldham, Greater Manchester? Basic fact's would be a good start.
Oldham IS in Lancashire. FACT. We don't have Manchester postcodes either so we are not in manch.
Shaw and Crompton is a town and civil parish within the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham, in Greater Manchester, England. Please step out of 1974 and into 2010.


Who the f..k cares if its in Greater Manchester or Lancashire, I'm sure MOST people know its "up north" and has a large immigrant Pakistani population and the whole affair was blown out of proportion because this child had a "British" passport! It also stank of a "set up" to gain cash from those members of the "knock Britain and support a poor immigrant", classes!! FFS stop being so f..king pedantic! :x
 
#13
ex_colonial said:
Who the f..k cares if its in Greater Manchester or Lancashire, I'm sure MOST people know its "up north" and has a large immigrant Pakistani population and the whole affair was blown out of proportion because this child had a "British" passport! It also stank of a "set up" to gain cash from those members of the "knock Britain and support a poor immigrant", classes!! FFS stop being so f..king pedantic!

That's that in a nutshell, so to summarise........ :D
 

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#14
heard_it_all_before said:
ex_colonial said:
Who the f..k cares if its in Greater Manchester or Lancashire, I'm sure MOST people know its "up north" and has a large immigrant Pakistani population and the whole affair was blown out of proportion because this child had a "British" passport! It also stank of a "set up" to gain cash from those members of the "knock Britain and support a poor immigrant", classes!! FFS stop being so f..king pedantic!

That's that in a nutshell, so to summarise........ :D
It can't be "up north" as it is well south of here :D
 
#15
Auld Yin

It is Norff of the Watford Gap therefore it is Norff, as I am lead to believe..

Magic
 

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#16
The_Magician said:
Auld Yin

It is Norff of the Watford Gap therefore it is Norff, as I am lead to believe..

Magic
Watford Gap? I get a nosebleed walking across Hungerford Bridge in the mornings, as Norf Lundun is full of odd scotsmen* and too far North for me, but we all have to work somewhere.



*Come on then, tell me that A Darling, G Brown & Co aren't odd?
 
#17
Cpl_ripper said:
grumpyoldb said:
Cpl_ripper said:
Times article

Sahil, from Shaw in Lancashire,
You mean Shaw, Oldham, Greater Manchester? Basic fact's would be a good start.
Oldham IS in Lancashire. FACT. We don't have Manchester postcodes either so we are not in manch.
Shaw and Crompton is a town and civil parish within the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham, in Greater Manchester, England. Please step out of 1974 and into 2010.
Seeing as GREATER MANCHESTER is in LANCASHIRE whats the big deal?
Or has GREATER MANCHESTER become a county now?
 
#18
TheHatsRevenge said:
Cpl_ripper said:
grumpyoldb said:
Cpl_ripper said:
Times article

Sahil, from Shaw in Lancashire,
You mean Shaw, Oldham, Greater Manchester? Basic fact's would be a good start.
Oldham IS in Lancashire. FACT. We don't have Manchester postcodes either so we are not in manch.
Shaw and Crompton is a town and civil parish within the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham, in Greater Manchester, England. Please step out of 1974 and into 2010.
Seeing as GREATER MANCHESTER is in LANCASHIRE whats the big deal?
Or has GREATER MANCHESTER become a county now?
Yep

Greater Manchester is now a Counrty and Alex Ferguson is King..

Drinking Whiskey is no Mandatory...

Magic
 
#19
ex_colonial said:
Who the f..k cares if its in Greater Manchester or Lancashire, I'm sure MOST people know its "up north" and has a large immigrant Pakistani population and the whole affair was blown out of proportion because this child had a "British" passport! It also stank of a "set up" to gain cash from those members of the "knock Britain and support a poor immigrant", classes!! FFS stop being so f..king pedantic! :x

I sense you're holding back a bit here EC, tell us what you really think...
 
#20
ouyin said:
ex_colonial said:
Who the f..k cares if its in Greater Manchester or Lancashire, I'm sure MOST people know its "up north" and has a large immigrant Pakistani population and the whole affair was blown out of proportion because this child had a "British" passport! It also stank of a "set up" to gain cash from those members of the "knock Britain and support a poor immigrant", classes!! FFS stop being so f..king pedantic! :x

I sense you're holding back a bit here EC, tell us what you really think...
Yes "RETICENCE" is my middle name :lol: :lol:
 
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