Saddam’s Scorecard from Desert Storm

But what would have happened if he'd gone through Kuwait and grabbed Saudi Arabia? You know, that place ruled by the Bush family's best friends in all the world.

A dozen chained Princes sitting on top of a bomb on top of every oil rig in the entire country, and every time a US transport plane lands anywhere within a thousand kilometres there's another bang and another whiff of roasting royals. You think the US oil companies would have let the US government risk their infrastructure investments in the Middle East just so the Pentagon could play soldiers in the sand?

One thing's certain, Saddam was a piss poor soldier. It took four and a half months to organise the counter invasion. Could you imagine Rommel waiting with his tanks sitting in the desert for months while the Americans were getting ready to have a battle with him? He'd have rolled right over the first US arrivals before they'd even organised a single supply dump of Coca Cola.
 

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ex_colonial said:
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Dont recall Saddam "beating" the Iranians, more like an inconclusive draw to my way of thinking!
Perhaps not a conclusive victory but hardly a draw. Militarily the Iranians successfully defended themselves, over reached with a counter invasion and were badly mauled taking nearly a million casualties double to four times the Iraqis butchers bill, much of their kit was destroyed, Khomeini famously "drank the cup of poison" of the UN truce.

From GlobalSecurity.org
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War Termination

Four major battles were fought from April to August 1988, in which the Iraqis routed or defeated the Iranians. In the first offensive, named Blessed Ramadhan, Iraqi Republican Guard and regular Army units recaptured the Al-Faw peninsula. The 36-hour battle was conducted in a militarily sophisticated manner with two main thrusts, supported by heliborne and amphibious landings, and low-level fixed-wing attack sorties. In this battle, the Iraqis effectively used chemical weapons (CW), using nerve and blister agents against Iranian command and control facilities, artillery positions, and logistics points. Three subsequent operations followed much the same pattern, although they were somewhat less complex. After rehearsals, the Iraqis launched successful attacks on Iranian forces in the Fish Lake and Shalamjah areas near Al-Basrah and recaptured the oil-rich Majnun Islands. Farther to the north, in the last major engagement before the August 1988 cease-fire, Iraqi armored and mechanized forces penetrated deep into Iran, defeating Iranian forces and capturing huge amounts of armor and artillery.

In the fall of 1988, the Iraqis displayed in Baghdad captured Iranian weapons amounting to more than three-quarters of the Iranian armor inventory and almost half of its artillery pieces and armored personnel carriers.

The Iran-Iraq war lasted nearly eight years, from September of 1980 until August of 1988. It ended when Iran accepted United Nations (UN) Security Council Resolution 598, leading to a 20 August 1988 cease-fire.

Casualty figures are highly uncertain, though estimates suggest more than one and a half million war and war-related casualties -- perhaps as many as a million people died, many more were wounded, and millions were made refugees. Iran acknowledged that nearly 300,000 people died in the war; estimates of the Iraqi dead range from 160,000 to 240,000. Iraq suffered an estimated 375,000 casualties, the equivalent of 5.6 million for a population the size of the United States. Another 60,000 were taken prisoner by the Iranians. Iran's losses may have included more than 1 million people killed or maimed.

Without diminishing the horror of either war, Iranian losses in the eight-year Iran-Iraq war appear modest compared with those of the European contestants in the four years of World War I, shedding some light on the limits of the Iranian tolerance for martyrdom. The war claimed at least 300,000 Iranian lives and injured more than 500,000, out of a total population which by the war's end was nearly 60 million. During the Great War, German losses were over 1,700,000 killed and over 4,200,000 wounded [out of a total population of over 65 million]. Germany's losses, relative to total national population, were at least five times higher than Iran. France suffered over 1,300,000 deaths and over 4,200,000 wounded. The percentages of pre-war population killed or wounded were 9% of Germany, 11% of France, and 8% of Great Britain.

At the end, virtually none of the issues which are usually blamed for the war had been resolved. When it was over, the conditions which existed at the beginning of the war remained virtually unchanged. Although Iraq won the war militarily, and possessed a significant military advantage over Iran in 1989, the 1991 Persian Gulf War reduced Iraq's capabilities to a point where a rough parity existed between Iran and Iraq-conditions similar to those found in 1980. The UN-arranged cease-fire merely put an end to the fighting, leaving two isolated states to pursue an arms race with each other, and with the other countries in the region. The Iraqi military machine -- numbering more than a million men with an extensive arsenal of CW, extended range Scud missiles, a large air force and one of the world's larger armies -- emerged as the premier armed force in the Persian Gulf region. In the Middle East, only the Israel Defense Force had superior capability.

The Ayatollah Khomeini died on 03 June 1989. The Assembly of Experts--an elected body of senior clerics--chose the outgoing president of the republic, Ali Khamenei, to be his successor as national religious leader in what proved to be a smooth transition. In August 1989, Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, the speaker of the National Assembly, was elected President by an overwhelming majority. The new clerical regime gave Iranian national interests primacy over Islamic doctrine.
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You might compare it with the Turkey's defeat in WWI in its traumatic affect on the Iranian Republic. Containing but entrenching Khomeini's gloomy revolution and producing a generation of dogged Pasdaran Trenchocrats that are still giving us gyp.

It left Saddam as The Sheild Of The Arabs with an over mighty and trucliant army worryingly capable of staging a coup. The Kuwait debacle may have queered his relationship with the gulf kingships and their backers but ironically eased his army problem and further consolidated his power.
 

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