Sad reflection on our times

#2
knockknee said:
The guy who glassed his son got a community sentence and the copper got time.
Just about sums it up really - Its amasing that people actually believe that plod get special treatment in cases such as these and in court in general.

Nevermind that it is common place for Bobbies to be freely called liars in court (Unchallenged) but now the courts do their best to go after bobbies to set the example. Fcuk stting the example to the violent criminal who caused this - He's a victim of society.

The Criminal Justice system in this country is fcuking awful.

They both deserve Punishing severely however once again The criminals are protected in this case more so than the copper (Who in all fairness has become a criminal, regardless of motive).
 
#4
I don't have a problem with the sentance handed out to him. He's supposed to be the one upholding the law, after all. You can argue provocation, but he still has authority denied the man in the street. The responsibility's correspondingly higher and so should be the punishment for abusing it.

The sentence handed out to his son's attacker was a complete disgrace, but not relevant to his. He did, after all, break into someone's house and attack an innocent man.
 
#5
catton01 said:
Closet_Jibber said:
knockknee said:
The Criminal Justice system in this country is fcuking awful.
Yes it is!

But what about the flatmate, just gets a high five for taking one for the team?
What passes for the criminal justice aysten in Britain has been systematically infiltrated by the hard left over the last 40 years-and especailly so since the 2nd of May 1997.

The Sovietization of Britain continues apace.
 
#6
knockknee said:
The copper's daughter had an arm broken and his son was glassed.
My understanding is that these were separate incidents. There is no description here of the assault on the coppers son, but if one takes into account the incidents that happened involving this family, it would seem that they are not strangers to violence, and the lad would have in all probability been at fault.

knockknee said:
The copper ... took the law into his own hands and dished out a hiding.
Illegal use of Police National Computer; Breaking and entering; Premeditated and sustained violent assault; Threatening and abusive behaviour; Conspiracy.

knockknee said:
The guy who glassed his son got a community sentence and the copper got time.
Both sides are wrong in law but look at the disparity of sentence.
Look at the disparity in the crime(s). Then look at the disparity in the sentences. Then see if there is a correlation.

Closet_Jibber said:
...Nevermind that it is common place for Bobbies to be freely called liars in court (Unchallenged)...
It is, unfortunately, commonplace for police officers to lie in court.
 
#7
catton01 said:
Closet_Jibber said:
knockknee said:
The Criminal Justice system in this country is fcuking awful.
Yes it is!

But what about the flatmate, just gets a high five for taking one for the team?
Criminal Injuries Compensation Will see to him if he is genuinely not involved.
 
#8
Joe_Private said:
knockknee said:
The copper's daughter had an arm broken and his son was glassed.
My understanding is that these were separate incidents. There is no description here of the assault on the coppers son, but if one takes into account the incidents that happened involving this family, it would seem that they are not strangers to violence, and the lad would have in all probability been at fault.

knockknee said:
The copper ... took the law into his own hands and dished out a hiding.
Illegal use of Police National Computer; Breaking and entering; Premeditated and sustained violent assault; Threatening and abusive behaviour; Conspiracy.

knockknee said:
The guy who glassed his son got a community sentence and the copper got time.
Both sides are wrong in law but look at the disparity of sentence.
Look at the disparity in the crime(s). Then look at the disparity in the sentences. Then see if there is a correlation.

Closet_Jibber said:
...Nevermind that it is common place for Bobbies to be freely called liars in court (Unchallenged)...
It is, unfortunately, commonplace for police officers to lie in court.


Commonplace? Not often I come on here to defend my chosen profession. This however is balls. Prove this statement please.
 
#9
Joe_Private said:
knockknee said:
The copper's daughter had an arm broken and his son was glassed.
My understanding is that these were separate incidents. There is no description here of the assault on the coppers son, but if one takes into account the incidents that happened involving this family, it would seem that they are not strangers to violence, and the lad would have in all probability been at fault.

knockknee said:
The copper ... took the law into his own hands and dished out a hiding.
Illegal use of Police National Computer; Breaking and entering; Premeditated and sustained violent assault; Threatening and abusive behaviour; Conspiracy.

knockknee said:
The guy who glassed his son got a community sentence and the copper got time.
Both sides are wrong in law but look at the disparity of sentence.
Look at the disparity in the crime(s). Then look at the disparity in the sentences. Then see if there is a correlation.

Closet_Jibber said:
...Nevermind that it is common place for Bobbies to be freely called liars in court (Unchallenged)...
It is, unfortunately, commonplace for police officers to lie in court.
Any chance you can quantify that with some evidence?

I'm not naive however I would be interested to see what evidence you have to suggest it is commonplace. Just curious as I certainly wouldn't lie in court because I like having a job and no criminal record.

I know there are plenty these days with the same attitude as its easy to see here that the courts go after coppers who are guilty of anything. Only today we had some of our block in court and the parting message from the boss was "Give your evidence and get back here ASAP, if he gets off with it, so fcuking what he'll come again." (Note: Not "Lie like a bastard so he definately gets found guilty")

As for the two offences committed. Be sure to smile if a member of your family is glassed and the piece of sh1t responsible gets a community order for in your opinion "Justice has been done".

The Ex Copper is by no means innocent here. However in a true anti plod fashion the public insist on throwing the book at plods who beak the law, but allowing the rest of the population to get away with murder.
 
#10
Closet_Jibber said:
However in a true anti plod fashion the public insist on throwing the book at plods who beak the law, but allowing the rest of the population to get away with murder.
Any chance you can quantify that with some evidence? :D

Just because the public is not comfortable with those who exercise power abusing it doesn't qualify as anti-plod. Just anti-power-abusing. Plod have power denied to ordinary man, it's only right they should be held to a higher standard, no?
 
#11
The plods punishment seems fair, unless you conpare it to the scrotes.

Both should be nailed to the fcuking wall.
 
#12
Closet_Jibber said:
Joe_Private said:
knockknee said:
The copper's daughter had an arm broken and his son was glassed.
My understanding is that these were separate incidents. There is no description here of the assault on the coppers son, but if one takes into account the incidents that happened involving this family, it would seem that they are not strangers to violence, and the lad would have in all probability been at fault.

knockknee said:
The copper ... took the law into his own hands and dished out a hiding.
Illegal use of Police National Computer; Breaking and entering; Premeditated and sustained violent assault; Threatening and abusive behaviour; Conspiracy.

knockknee said:
The guy who glassed his son got a community sentence and the copper got time.
Both sides are wrong in law but look at the disparity of sentence.
Look at the disparity in the crime(s). Then look at the disparity in the sentences. Then see if there is a correlation.

Closet_Jibber said:
...Nevermind that it is common place for Bobbies to be freely called liars in court (Unchallenged)...
It is, unfortunately, commonplace for police officers to lie in court.
Any chance you can quantify that with some evidence?

I'm not naive however I would be interested to see what evidence you have to suggest it is commonplace. Just curious as I certainly wouldn't lie in court because I like having a job and no criminal record.

I know there are plenty these days with the same attitude as its easy to see here that the courts go after coppers who are guilty of anything. Only today we had some of our block in court and the parting message from the boss was "Give your evidence and get back here ASAP, if he gets off with it, so fcuking what he'll come again." (Note: Not "Lie like a fatherless so he definately gets found guilty")

As for the two offences committed. Be sure to smile if a member of your family is glassed and the piece of sh1t responsible gets a community order for in your opinion "Justice has been done".

The Ex Copper is by no means innocent here. However in a true anti plod fashion the public insist on throwing the book at plods who beak the law, but allowing the rest of the population to get away with murder.

Ask Ms S McKie about the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
 
#13
smartascarrots said:
Closet_Jibber said:
However in a true anti plod fashion the public insist on throwing the book at plods who beak the law, but allowing the rest of the population to get away with murder.
Any chance you can quantify that with some evidence? :D

Just because the public is not comfortable with those who exercise power abusing it doesn't qualify as anti-plod. Just anti-power-abusing. Plod have power denied to ordinary man, it's only right they should be held to a higher standard, no?
I find it very difficult, nay impossible, to defend this copper. He was bang out of order, and deserved everything he got. He crossed the line by a long way. You can't compare the two cases. The scumbag that wounded his son deserved severe punishment, but you can't justify the coppers actions by the severity of his son's injury. That is the road to vigilantism sports fans. Surely the reason the police exist is to prevent mob rule
 
#14
Closet_Jibber said:
Joe_Private said:
Closet_Jibber said:
...Nevermind that it is common place for Bobbies to be freely called liars in court (Unchallenged)...
It is, unfortunately, commonplace for police officers to lie in court.
Any chance you can quantify that with some evidence?
Exemplum:
R. v me and my two oppos.
In summing up, the Sheriff (for it was in Scotland) said "...It is clear that either the defendants are lying, or the Police Officers are lying, and I find the defendants Not Guilty...."

This is as near to verbatim as I can manage quarter of a century later.

The way it was said definately gave the impression that this was not regarded as an unusual or noteworthy occurence.
 
#15
chocolate_frog said:
The plods punishment seems fair, unless you conpare it to the scrotes.

Both should be nailed to the fcuking wall.
That is all I would ask for - Nothing more or less.
 
#16
Joe_Private said:
Closet_Jibber said:
Joe_Private said:
Closet_Jibber said:
...Nevermind that it is common place for Bobbies to be freely called liars in court (Unchallenged)...
It is, unfortunately, commonplace for police officers to lie in court.
Any chance you can quantify that with some evidence?
Exemplum:
R. v me and my two oppos.
In summing up, the Sheriff (for it was in Scotland) said "...It is clear that either the defendants are lying, or the Police Officers are lying, and I find the defendants Not Guilty...."

This is as near to verbatim as I can manage quarter of a century later.

The way it was said definately gave the impression that this was not regarded as an unusual or noteworthy occurence.
So no real evidence then.
 
#19
Look at it from the "poor prcik on the street" side.

This police officer actually felt that the system he was defending was unable to provide justice for his family.

compare this to a battallion of cannon fodder being sent to afgan but due to curcumstances they would not have any ammo until day 65 of the tour.

You still have to go dont you??????????????

and then on day 64 the message is "sorry, ammo sent to canada" however the containers with cold weather suites should be ok for your replacement on the next turnround.

ps. your children have been injured buy some idiots but rest assured they will recieve the best medical treatment at a birmingham nhs.

You come home and thank the asian nurse that has just passed mrsa to your daughter.

You go home singing, """i am a god loving person, my family are victims of my inability to defend them."""" I forgive all the people who have skrewed me and my family.

you soldier on, because you are a complete waste of space.

Throw stones, dont be silly. God has to tell us who??????

So,all you hard guys coming back from the pub/sandy pit explain your deferance?

1. roll over.

2. Kill some fcuker.

3. join arrrrrrrse and complain.

4. find the pleb and give him as much pain as possible.

Oh, and if you are a policeman (how many thousand have served in these places over the past 30 yeras) you are banned from this choice because, weel, quite simply you are not allowed to defend your family on this website.

You should know better.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#20
JoseyWales said:
Read about what he did and then take into account his p1ss poor excuse on the alcoholic cop out. If he was off the p1ss it might never have happened.
And the next time a sqauddie kills someone and claims ptsd I will use your judgement and stone the fcuker to death.
 

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