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SA80 Replacement on the distant horizon ?

To you who have been in harms way, Regardless of weapon, which calibre is best in a firefight
5.56 or 7.62 mm
114mm
 

Themanwho

LE
Book Reviewer
To you who have been in harms way, Regardless of weapon, which calibre is best in a firefight
5.56 or 7.62 mm
The one you've got.
 
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All previous issues that have cropped up with Bullpups are solved of which only two have ever been of significance

Left/Right Ejection - see Tavor, Beretta ARX 160, GD NGR/NGSW, Desert Tech MDR, Radom GROT

Length of of pull, see GD NGR/NGSW

As for trigger pull, see Tavor and Desert Tech, and some excellent after market solutions developed Stateside. Or you can take the EM2 solution and put the sear at the front rather than the rear

irrelevant as the SA80 cannot be fired from the left shoulder.

and one of the key reasons the Royal Marines adopted the C8?
The major tactical restrictions that placed on them in CQB.
 
I dont think it will be any great improvement on the 5.56 ,by the time they`ve updated their 5.56 M4`s to take 6.8mm which was / is the plan they may as well have a new rifle , will an M4 withstand the extra recoil? if they continue with direct impingement it will soon get very hot and full of crud , + most of the NATO countries intend staying with 5.56 .
It would have been smarter to further develop 5.56 ammunition like European ammunition manufacturers have rather than going bigger/heavier/ more expensive.


Errrrr. Have a look at the offerings as there is no M4 rebuild on the cards.
 
irrelevant as the SA80 cannot be fired from the left shoulder.

Because in her Majesty’s British Armed Forces we fire from the right shoulder, none of this left shoulder bollocks.
 

rampant

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
irrelevant as the SA80 cannot be fired from the left shoulder.

and one of the key reasons the Royal Marines adopted the C8?
The major tactical restrictions that placed on them in CQB.
Whether or not the SA80 can be fired from the left or right shoulder (and current CQB drills as practice have firing from both left and right) in the context of my post.

You were complaining that
"Bullpup is never the answer"

I have clearly shown that all issues connected with Bullpups are easily solved with recent advances in SA engineering. Don't try to move the goalposts.

 
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I just had the following info on a trade email ....

"I am now in direct communication with the Infantry Trials and Development Unit who are at the very early stages of looking for the replacement for the SA80 and other military firearm systems. It is my ambition to ensure that the Armed Forces have the very best future capabilities and I look to be able to better connect the Trade with such opportunities. Whether you are already a major supplier or have specialist innovation talents, please let me know so that I can ensure you are kept up to date with requirements."

Interesting , what`s the betting everyone will get a HK416 IN 5-10 years?
Oh those cheeky Chinese/Russians and their fishing emails. 5 pages of the British mindset on bangsticks (allowing that most posters are either never served civvies [moi] or 10-30 years out of date on the current position).
 
5.56 isn't classed as HME.
Dude, he's referring to a target shooting discipline called "NRA High Power Rifle". Nothing to do with "high muzzle energy" or anything. And it's dominated by AR15's firing .223 ;)
 

theoriginalphantom

MIA
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Buy them? Buy them? There was no need to buy them, we could have just taken them out of the cold dead hands of our enemies.

We were tripping over them during Granby. I thought they were French at the time...
 

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