SA80 grouping

#1
Anyone got any good tips on getting grouping size down on the following using a sa80

Prone
Sitting (Legs crossed)
Kneeling
Standing
Prone supported with magazine

Cheers in advance Dazzla
 
#5
The marksmanship principles......
Only fire when you're at the pit of your breathing
Don't snatch
 
#6
I'm sure there will be a setting somewhere on your x-box, you massive vagina.
 
#7
I wonder how long it will be before someone with a chip on their shoulder that they missed out on using the SLR pops up to mention it?

Obviously; the SLR would produce better groupings by virtue of the fact it fired a better round, but not as good as the No 4 0.303" Lee Enfield because that had much more wood and proper recoil. Not to mention it had a brass butt plate as well...
 

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#8
It's quite simple really, hold the gun really really still and aim at the same spot each time.

That's it.
 
#9
1) Position and hold must be firm enough to support the weapon.

2) Body allignment: Weapon must point naturally at the target without undue physical effort.

3) Sight allignment must be correct.

4) The shot must be released and followed through without disturbing the position.

SLR
 
#11
Half the problem is your choice of weapon.

Obviously; the SLR would produce better groupings by virtue of the fact it fired a better round, but not as good as the No 4 0.303" Lee Enfield because that had much more wood and proper recoil. Not to mention it had a brass butt plate as well...

Hope this helps.
 
#12
Why the hell do you need a grouping in all those positions?
 
#13
Simple. Practice.

Every time you sign a weapon out of the armoury, do some dry training. Get into position, aim at a (safe) mark, release the trigger. See if you can stay on aim throughout. Start trying to hold the sights within an area (say a brick in a wall), then halve it, then halve it again. Keep doing it whenever you've got some spare time.

Every time you fire a blank round on exercise, if you're outside the safety minimum distance make it a well-aimed shot. Make every shot on the gallery ranges a good shot. Get into the habit, and soon you won't be able to do anything else.
 
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#14
Do the old dry firing with a penny balanced on the barrel - take your position - aim at a point on the wall - get you mate to balance a penny on the barrel and squeeze off a shot - if the penny falls off due to wobble you fail - repeat 5,000 times.
 
#15
You could get closer...

If you don't wear glasses, and presuming that you're using iron sights, make sure that the rear sight/carrying handle is as far back as possible, whilst maintaining eye relief. If you wear glasses, the chances are that you'll need to have it as far forward as possible in order to get eye relief. (SLR didn't discriminate against double-glazed soldiers)

Make sure that your sights aren't loose.

If you're firing prone, protect your right elbow. I use a tubular bandage folded over several times. It prevents the pain when you dig a recess into the ground to prevent your elbow slipping.

Just before firing, lick your left thumb and wipe away the dust that will have settled on the tip of the foresight.
 
#16
Top Tip,

it's not good enough to simply be able to recite the 4 Marksmanship Principles, you have to actually understand them and their practical application. Do that and you will have no problems grouping.

Unless you are a ******* mong who couldn't hit a cow's ass with a shovel
 
#17
Another tip. Practice deep breaths. Release the shot on the full exhale of every second breath, holding your breath during the follow through.

Not every breath or you'll go dizzy. Not more than two breaths or you'll concentrate too long and lose faith in yourself.
 

chrisg46

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#18
Once fired your first shot, DO NOT adjust your position.
 
#19
Why would you want to fire your rifle? you'll only get it dirty. Leave it with all it's friends in the armoury.
 

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