SA 80 pre 1995 deactivated

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I haven't seen any for a while. The last similar thing I saw was a factory made dummy/display L96A1 at Worldwide Arms, but that was a year or two ago.
 
#3
What on earth do you want one for? Deacts don't work at all and will guarantee an armed response if anyone sees you with it. Personally I wouldn't want a load of armed coppers trying to nick me.
 

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CQMS said:
What on earth do you want one for? Deacts don't work at all and will guarantee an armed response if anyone sees you with it. Personally I wouldn't want a load of armed coppers trying to nick me.
Probably because it is a piece of p1ss to re-activate a pre 95 one. There is absolutely no other benefit to owning one over a post 95 de-act.

What are you planning Dinky?
 
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rebore then refit 4/10 incert ... you have shotgun... but looks good... but shoots like 20 feet (if your lucky)
 

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plaster said:
rebore then refit 4/10 incert ... you have shotgun... but looks good... but shoots like 20 feet (if your lucky)
Nice idea but is the barrel on an SA80 thick enough to be re-bored to 410?
I would've thought that once you have bored it to size you would have nothing left!
 
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i dont know for sure... however i was thinking it had loads of room .... maybe a bit thin left ..but some mad fools ?????????
 
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Ravers said:
CQMS said:
What on earth do you want one for? Deacts don't work at all and will guarantee an armed response if anyone sees you with it. Personally I wouldn't want a load of armed coppers trying to nick me.
Probably because it is a piece of p1ss to re-activate a pre 95 one. There is absolutely no other benefit to owning one over a post 95 de-act.

What are you planning Dinky?
Really? Wouldn't it involve a new barrel and working parts, as well as a good bit of work to the receiver?

Might as well make one from scratch then.......
 
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[quote="Ravers]Probably because it is a piece of p1ss to re-activate a pre 95 one. There is absolutely no other benefit to owning one over a post 95 de-act.

What are you planning Dinky?[/quote]

That and the fact that the actions on the older deacts function and they can usually be field stripped.
 

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Tartan_Terrier said:
Ravers said:
CQMS said:
What on earth do you want one for? Deacts don't work at all and will guarantee an armed response if anyone sees you with it. Personally I wouldn't want a load of armed coppers trying to nick me.
Probably because it is a piece of p1ss to re-activate a pre 95 one. There is absolutely no other benefit to owning one over a post 95 de-act.

What are you planning Dinky?
Really? Wouldn't it involve a new barrel and working parts, as well as a good bit of work to the receiver?

Might as well make one from scratch then.......
New barrel possibly, depends how the old one was de-activated, i.e. if there is lead in the barrel it can just be melted out, then the chamber can be re-sleaved. As for the rest I would assume new firing pin and new bolt which are easy enough to get hold of or machine up, a lot of units just threw theirs away when the A2 came out so a few are knocking about. The bolt carrier wouldn't neccessarily have been altered during de-activation as they would've just milled off the bolt and firing pin at a 45 degree angle.
 
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roadster280 said:
but a wood furniture SLR would look just great on my wall.
And on anybody's wall. Piece of art.

(Chuffed that my 1k post is about that, brings back warm memories - modern rifles may be good but don't always have the look.)

Back on thread, sounds like a collector, is that still allowed?
 
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Ravers said:
New barrel possibly, depends how the old one was de-activated, i.e. if there is lead in the barrel it can just be melted out, then the chamber can be re-sleaved. As for the rest I would assume new firing pin and new bolt which are easy enough to get hold of or machine up, a lot of units just threw theirs away when the A2 came out so a few are knocking about. The bolt carrier wouldn't neccessarily have been altered during de-activation as they would've just milled off the bolt and firing pin at a 45 degree angle.
I don't think filling the barrel with lead was ever approved by the Proof House as a form of deactivation. There were/are certain criteria which should be met, including either welding a rod into the barrel, or cutting a slot through the chamber and barrel. The chamber should also be blocked to make it impossible to load.

I know that various things were done in the dim and distant (pre 1988 and the advent of official deactivation) past, but there can't be that many of those knocking about. Those that I have seen have been old rook rifles which would probably be licence free due to their calibre nowadays anyway.
 
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Tartan_Terrier said:
Ravers said:
New barrel possibly, depends how the old one was de-activated, i.e. if there is lead in the barrel it can just be melted out, then the chamber can be re-sleaved. As for the rest I would assume new firing pin and new bolt which are easy enough to get hold of or machine up, a lot of units just threw theirs away when the A2 came out so a few are knocking about. The bolt carrier wouldn't neccessarily have been altered during de-activation as they would've just milled off the bolt and firing pin at a 45 degree angle.
I don't think filling the barrel with lead was ever approved by the Proof House as a form of deactivation. There were/are certain criteria which should be met, including either welding a rod into the barrel, or cutting a slot through the chamber and barrel. The chamber should also be blocked to make it impossible to load.

I know that various things were done in the dim and distant (pre 1988 and the advent of official deactivation) past, but there can't be that many of those knocking about. Those that I have seen have been old rook rifles which would probably be licence free due to their calibre nowadays anyway.
By inserting a steel rod into a barrel and then pouring molten lead into the chamber you are effectively making it impossible to load and blocking the barrel in one fell swoop, so it would fit the criteria. Then the bolt face would be milled off at a 45 degree angle rendering the rifle useless. I admit I have never seen a de-act SA80 but I assume this is how it would be done as I have seen other military rifles de-activated in the same manner.

Anyway those rook rifles sound nice any piccys? :lol:
 
#18
Never having looked for a deactivated 5.56 I've never been aware of any, however google is your friend (though I'm guessing all these are under the 'new' deactivation rules'

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#19
the bolt rail is ground down allso..you would need to remill the whole frame... for a one god shot you could use "no more nails and file that down... thats been done on a few shotguns with hammers... but they have pins that face up and as they call em god shots,,if they go on you ,,its you that will be meeting him next.
 
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