Russians move to end rift with UK

Should mr.Brown try to improve relations with Russia?

  • He must make British position even more tough

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  • Mr.Brown should follow current line

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  • It is mr.Milliband's business, not PM's

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  • Rather yes

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  • Yes, he should

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  • Yes, moreover it is very important for the UK

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#1
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/03/russia.foreignpolicy

Dmitry Medvedev, Russia's president, has called for a new era of relations with Britain following a torrid two years which saw the murder of a high-profile emigre and battles over British business interests.

In a wide ranging interview -his first with foreign newspapers since taking office in May - Medvedev said Russia and Britain had endured worse crises in the past and it was time to move on. "International relations always require people to come towards each other," he said. "There has to be a willingness to find compromises and listen to your partner. Russia is ready to move, but we expect corresponding steps from our British partners."

Medvedev said he had "a calm and good conversation" with Gordon Brown on the phone recently and was looking forward to seeing him at next week's G8 summit in Hokkaido, Japan. He has sent a leading adviser to London to prepare for a bilateral Anglo-Russian meeting during the summit which he expected to be "comprehensive and useful".
 
#2
Perhaps they would like to hand over Lugovoi as a first step?

msr
 
#3
Who the fcuk voted that we should get tough with the Russians? They can crush us militarily and commercially without batting an eyelid.
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#4
I'm sure the Brooooon has already agreed to forgive and forget the nuclear chemical weapon poisoning of a person on British soil - it's a bit of an inconvenience. He's always been MUCH closer to Russia than the UK anyway, so I'm sure we can all do a deal.
 

Trans-sane

LE
Book Reviewer
#5
western said:
Who the fcuk voted that we should get tough with the Russians? They can crush us militarily and commercially without batting an eyelid.
Who the fcuk voted for Cyclops? Russia should hold off until we have an elected goverment otherwise they and any deals made may not be taken seriously after the next election. Which just goes to show that politicans are idiots- all politicians of all colours (red, yellow green or blue), races and nations
 
#6
No need for an arms race - they can destroy UK by turning off the gas. France can do it by turning off our electricity. We are pretty much dependant on everyone now.
 
#7
Mind you with Russian Gas going up in price by 50% this coming winter, something the UK media haven't really picked up on yet, they will effectively start squeezing Europe from about October onwards. The pips will start to squeak not long after

Britain is the largest single investor in Russia and both the PM and Medvedyev are fully aware of how important good relations are as said in the article.
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
I'm sure that the politicians on both sides will resume normal diplomatic back slapping in due course, but businesses are increasingly turning away from Russia. Not that this will (or should) bother the Russians who surely can get investment just as easily from elsewhere, but British fingers have been burned trying to make a profit there and we'll probably see a disengagement.

Opinion piece here ...

Would you rather bet on Russia or Nigeria? When Lord Browne, BP's former chief executive, posed this question a few years ago everybody knew the answer. Of the two big oil prospects outside the Middle East, Russia seemed infinitely preferable.

Yes, corporate contracts could be ripped up and the hand of Kremlin was never far away, but those difficulties looked like a picnic in comparison with Shell's task of dealing with violence in Nigeria. BP's investment in a half-share of TNK-BP in 2002, after one false start in Russia, was regarded - and still is in many quarters - as Lord Browne's finest achievement.

The bet hasn't gone wholly sour yet, but BP's 50:50 partnership with four local tycoons has. It is hard to see how it can survive after the events of the past few months, culminating in Monday's withdrawal of work permits for many of TNK-BP's foreign executives.

cont.
 
#9
Well we are Russias oldest trading partner, The Muscovy Company, so it might make sense for both sides to reorg and get friendly again.
 
#10
Biped said:
I'm sure the Brooooon has already agreed to forgive and forget the nuclear chemical weapon poisoning of a person on British soil - it's a bit of an inconvenience. He's always been MUCH closer to Russia than the UK anyway, so I'm sure we can all do a deal.
Do you think we could swap him for Putin i mean at least he has two function eyes.
 
#11
KGB(FSB) fact finding at its best Sergey :roll:
If this is how your boys aquire intelligence then we have nothing to worry about.
 
#12
RABC said:
No need for an arms race - they can destroy UK by turning off the gas. France can do it by turning off our electricity. We are pretty much dependant on everyone now.
Sickenly true :x
 
#13
fusil89 said:
KGB(FSB) fact finding at its best Sergey :roll:
If this is how your boys aquire intelligence then we have nothing to worry about.
The best sources of intelligence are pubs I fancy.

On a serious note, my uncle is a former colonel of GRU. He worked with satelite images (mainly China was the area of his interests). As for my Father then he (former colonel of KGB) served in counter-intelligence division. And he is well aware about methods used by our American friends. Now he is in hospital - lung cancer.
 
#15
Off-thread a bit for a mo: Dear Sergey, I was very sorry to hear that your Da is in dock. You must be very worried about him. I sincerely hope everything turns out fine for him.

Back on thread:
In the long-term, it's probably a good bet for the UK to start cosying up to the Ivans. Brits are (strangely) quite admired in Russia, much more so than Septics. And the "special relationship" the UK ostensibly has with the Septics hasn't turned out to be very advantageous at all, has it?

Cultural bit: even in the dark days of Communist rule, the normal Ivans were always extremely fine folks. I knew them then, and I've since been back a couple of times. Anybody who has any doubts about Russia should take the trouble of spending a bit of time there. It provides a whole new perspective, believe me.

MsG
 
#17
Bugsy said:
Off-thread a bit for a mo: Dear Sergey, I was very sorry to hear that your Da is in dock. You must be very worried about him. I sincerely hope everything turns out fine for him.

Back on thread:
In the long-term, it's probably a good bet for the UK to start cosying up to the Ivans. Brits are (strangely) quite admired in Russia, much more so than Septics. And the "special relationship" the UK ostensibly has with the Septics hasn't turned out to be very advantageous at all, has it?

Cultural bit: even in the dark days of Communist rule, the normal Ivans were always extremely fine folks. I knew them then, and I've since been back a couple of times. Anybody who has any doubts about Russia should take the trouble of spending a bit of time there. It provides a whole new perspective, believe me.

MsG
Nice post Bugsy, I quite agree. Over the years I have met a few Russians and without exception they were all stand up people. (Even the Russki lap dancers). :)
 
#20
It seems entirely possible that the TNK assets,were themselves stolen from The Russian State,by oligarchs,during the infamous 'privitisation'
 
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