Russian Troop Movements Reported Near Ukraine

[endure]

Too big to move.

Just a bit...

 

[tiny_recy_mac]

At least they're all spread out...

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The Russians really like to learn the hard way - and still not learn

Don't interrupt our enemy when he is making a mistake...

 

[BPS666]

The reported estimates released in public to the gullible western media, are wholly for propaganda purposes. The actual confirmed casualty returns for any given unit over the course of a week, will almost certainly be classified by both sides and so nobody has any clue what the truth is.

On attrition? its a simple objective fact that any Artilleryman would accept without question, that his arm doles out the most kills and maiming. So inevitably the Ukrainians are the ones who will be suffering heavier losses as the Russians have more artillery and that's probably been true since the middle of March. Those rates have probably accelerated the past month.

Did Jimmy Saville give you speshul lessons in a mental hospital?

 

[Resasi]

It was only late in the in the Rhodesian troubles that I saw cam warpaint. I remember a directive going out however for troops to stop wearing shorts because captured gooks said the white legs could be seen from miles away.

Yes, the 'Black is beautiful' sun lotion.

Besides which, bare legs and Buffalo Beans weren't a good mix.

 

[Tedsson]

The Russians really like to learn the hard way - and still not learn

The ones who learn the very hard way are now krispy kritters fertilising sunflowers.

 

[Tedsson]

Did Jimmy Saville give you speshul lessons in a mental hospital?

Emong only likes big strong bears like Vladolf and Trump.

 

[strima]

Their tactics

TicTacs are more effective...

 

[HectortheInspector]

The Ukrainians admit to losing 50-100 soldiers a day in current conditions.

Up to 100 Ukraine troops could be dying in Donbas each day, says Zelenskiy

President gives insight into country’s casualties, as Luhansk governor says Russia using ‘scorched-earth’ tactics

www.theguardian.com

X3 dead for wounded, as per usual 20th Century attrition rates.
That is between 200 and 400 soldiers KIA or WIA per day.
Split the difference, call it 300 lost per day, that's about 2000 a week.

 

[Mr_Fingerz]

At least they're all spread out...

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The Russians really like to learn the hard way - and still not learn

You say that like it's a bad thing...

 

[Condottiere]

Cultural eradication.

‘Ukraine’s heritage under attack’: why Russia is looting museums

2,000 stolen artworks attest to Putin’s desire to erase a nation’s history – like so many despots before him

www.theguardian.com

Muscovite Russia has always tried to mask it's true origins as the inheritor of and successor state to the Mongol Horde, by appropriating the pre- Mongol conquest history of Ky'ivan Rus.

Muscovy was not even an original principality of Ky'ivan Rus. At the time, Moscow was but a very minor provincial trading town

Moscow grew under the Mongols and became their local enforcer and tax-collector, was elevated to a principality and then finally ousted its former tutor and benefactor.

However it appears not to overly like this lineage and prefers to present itself as the successor state to Ky'ivan Rus. Cynically, after the fall of Constantinople to the Ottoman Turks; Moscow, using Ky'iv's ancient Byzantine links, proclaimed itself to be the "third Rome" and this is its historic foundation to claims of national exceptionalism and leadership of Europe and the World.

An independent and sovereign Ukraine is the rightful successor state to Ky'ivan Rus and this is something that Moscow cannot countenance, as it undermines the mythos of the Muscovite state.

 

[Slime]

Did Jimmy Saville give you speshul lessons in a mental hospital?

There is no need to be offensive.
What he says in his first paragraph contains truth.

He says he has no clue what the truth about casualty figures are.
Just bear that in mind when he pretends he does know.

As he said, the figures are classified, nobody has any clue what the truth is…………………., as a poster here he is part of that nobody

He earlier said his opinion is broadly similar to Peter Hitchens. Hitchens rather famously got it completely wrong about whether there would be an invasion, and had to publicly apologise.

If it’s born in mind that Emcon doesn’t know what he talks about (by his own admission)and aligns himself with another who got things completely wrong (by his own admission), his posts needn’t cause anything more than amusement………or as a guide to how pro Russian posters view this war differently to those who support freedom of independence.

 

[Emcon Ecomcon]

The Ukrainians admit to losing 50-100 soldiers a day in current conditions.

Up to 100 Ukraine troops could be dying in Donbas each day, says Zelenskiy

President gives insight into country’s casualties, as Luhansk governor says Russia using ‘scorched-earth’ tactics

www.theguardian.com

X3 dead for wounded, as per usual 20th Century attrition rates.
That between 200 and 400 soldiers KIA or WIA per day.
Split the difference, call it 300 lost per day, that's about 2000 a week.

300 or 400 Ukrainian Casualties a day is still based on the the propaganda figures. The real figure is probably something like 800+ Casualties a day for the past month and probably matching the rate of loss the Russians were losing in the first 2-3 weeks of the war. My sense is the Russians its probably substantially less and somewhere around 150-200 a day.

 

[Slime]

300 or 400 Ukrainian Casualties a day is still based on the the propaganda figures. The real figure is probably something like 800+ Casualties a day for the past month and probably matching the rate of loss the Russians were losing in the first 2-3 weeks of the war.

This post shows why I don’t understand why some posters think lots of people get angry with you.

Not long ago this afternoon YOU posted that nobody has a clue what the true figures are, then soon after that you have gone against what you said yourself

I just wish people would allow for the fact that not only are you making things up, but you are even pointing out you are making things up.

 

[Wader 2]

@Wader 2 since this is 'old' in the recent Russian offensive in the Donbas perhaps you could enlighten with more up to date information on either the system, it's recent use, or whatever you think is old?

Like posted previously?

 

[whitecity]

With the arrival of the 1st T-62's, an attack on Odesa is more likely. They don't need them in the East of Ukraine as Russia outnumbers Ukrainian forces there.

A variety of sources has placed a battalion of T-62M and T-62MV on the Zaporizhzhia front. Other sources suggest they are a reserve unit affiliated to, and now serving under command of, 150th Motor Rifle Division. That would tally with the location.

Russia still has large quantities of T-62M and MV in 'near readiness storage' allocated to specific reserve units as well as others in longer term storage unallocated.

Last summer, the Southern Military District ran a series of exercises to test the readiness of their formations and units, including some of their reserve ones, and at least 3 battalions of T-62M/MV were given a run out.

Piecing together fragmentary information, it seems the Southern Military District has managed to convince at least one battalion's worth of tankies to accept Muskovy's kopek to mobilize voluntarily to backfill combat losses.

 

[stickybomb]

300 or 400 Ukrainian Casualties a day is still based on the the propaganda figures. The real figure is probably something like 800+ Casualties a day for the past month and probably matching the rate of loss the Russians were losing in the first 2-3 weeks of the war. My sense is the Russians its probably substantially less and somewhere around 150-200 a day.

But the past 4,500 pages has established beyond reasonable doubt that you don't have any sense, so unless you're sitting in the Kremlin's JCCC dividing the dwindling number of Russian potatoes by the increasing number of Russian widows, you're just flailing in mid-air. Again.

 

[whitecity]

300 or 400 Ukrainian Casualties a day is still based on the the propaganda figures. The real figure is probably something like 800+ Casualties a day for the past month and probably matching the rate of loss the Russians were losing in the first 2-3 weeks of the war. My sense is the Russians its probably substantially less and somewhere around 150-200 a day.

And how does your NE England sense help you understand what the casualty figures are in East Ukraine?

Remember, your conclusions are based entirely upon the anti-Ukraine part of your personal agenda. I mean, look at your own words, "... based on the the propaganda figures. The real figure ..." What evidence do you have to confirm Zelensky is lying and your NE England sense is somehow "real"?

 

[stickybomb]

This has to be the twelvety-third "Ooh, you've really done it now!" frothing from Ru State TV.
Even the idiot who cried 'wolf' gave up after three.

 

[vvaannmmaann]

My sense is the Russians its probably substantially less and somewhere around 150-200 a day.

If as we are told Russia does not want their dead to be returned to them, how can you have any idea of death rates?

 

[longlivethequeen]

The reported estimates released in public to the gullible western media, are wholly for propaganda purposes. The actual confirmed casualty returns for any given unit over the course of a week, will almost certainly be classified by both sides and so nobody has any clue what the truth is.

On attrition? its a simple objective fact that any Artilleryman would accept without question, that his arm doles out the most kills and maiming. So inevitably the Ukrainians are the ones who will be suffering heavier losses as the Russians have more artillery and that's probably been true since the middle of March. Those rates have probably accelerated the past month.

If you are that loved up with Russia why dnt you jog over there and give the Russians you sage advise. I am sure the Ukrainian troops would also love to have a chat with you. I have to ask are you smoking Crack or are you just a spanner head.