Russian Troop Movements Reported Near Ukraine

When Will Russia Invade Ukraine

  • Wed 16th Feb

    Votes: 20 6.9%
  • Before 22nd Feb

    Votes: 54 18.7%
  • By St David's Day (1 March)

    Votes: 93 32.2%
  • By St Georges Day (23 April)

    Votes: 22 7.6%
  • By August

    Votes: 9 3.1%
  • By Christmas

    Votes: 6 2.1%
  • Some time in 2023

    Votes: 17 5.9%
  • Before Hell Freezes Over

    Votes: 68 23.5%

  • Total voters
    289

Who_Dat

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The Moscow-installed mayor of Energodar, a city in southern Ukraine hosting Europe's largest nuclear power plant, was injured in an explosion on Sunday, a Ukrainian official and Russian news agencies said. Andrei Shevtchik was appointed mayor of Energodar after Russian troops took control of this city and the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant located on its territory. "We have precise confirmation that during the explosion Shevchik, the self-proclaimed head of the 'people's administration', and his bodyguards were injured," Dmytro Orlov, elected mayor of Energodar, announced on Telegram. . The latter added that they were in hospital "with injuries of varying severity", but the circumstances of the explosion remain to be clarified. There were no other injuries in the blast, he added. Quoting a source from the emergency services, the Russian news agency RIA Novosti specified that Mr. Shevtchik is in intensive care. The explosion was caused by an "improvised explosive device", according to the other Russian agency TASS, citing a source in the police force. A city of nearly 50,000 inhabitants, Energodar was built in the 1970s around the nuclear power plant which is located on the Dnipr river opposite the city of Zaporijjia, held by the Ukrainians. The plant was the site of confrontation from the first days of the conflict, raising fears of a possible nuclear disaster in a country whose history is marked by the explosion of a reactor in Chernobyl in 1986.
 
quoting my posts as a launchpad to dribble out your EU-phobic obsession.
There’s threads dedicated to Brexit. This isn’t about that, but there is certainly a narrative about why the EU doesn’t work and it’s writ large in this conflict. But I won’t agree that the EU has in anyway engineered Russian aggression. If Putin claims that EUrope has given conflicting signals , he can stick that where the monkey hides his nuts. We’ve been here before.
 
Starting to get OT, but "The German Question" has existed for almost 200years, and hasn't gone away.
Germany is, in many ways, the solution and cause of many of Europe's problems

Thanks, but you are speaking to a Half German. But there are several points.
Point 1 the electors of the HRE only existed in Germany because they were supporters of the emperor, not because they were German. The First wasn’t German he was Frankish.
Point 2 the I848 revolutions originated in France not Germany and were part of a concept that was European wide.
Point 3 Austria and those German states outside it were frequently were not German. My own for example had been Danish, then Swedish, then for a time French, others had Spanish and Dutch involvement. English history is relatively simple in context.
The reason that the German problem is complicated is that German states, in many cases had outside interference. And let’s no forget the 30 years war. So one always wanted a slice.
 


I suspect the Armata Tank will have the same issue - all 3 crew are in the fwd lower hull so totally dependent upon optics/cameras to see around the vehicle

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Wader 2

War Hero
I do like a happy ending.
Ignoring the end result for a moment, consider the begining.

What caused a much vaunted battle tank to leg it down a road, gun trained in his 6, firing at something and making smoke?

Also, I know there have been arguments that the MBT is not dead, though this one is, but a cheap drone does skew that argument until there are effective counter measures.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
Ignoring the end result for a moment, consider the begining.

What caused a much vaunted battle tank to leg it down a road, gun trained in his 6, firing at something and making smoke?

Also, I know there have been arguments that the MBT is not dead, though this one is, but a cheap drone does skew that argument until there are effective counter measures.

There have been cheap ways to knock out tanks for a long time - it's just a permanent technology battle. The bottom line is that Ukraine isn't going to recover territory against committed opposition, particularly in the south, without armour. You can't manoeuvre troops in open spaces on foot or in soft-skinned vehicles and artillery or aviation does not have the immediate response capability of an MBT if the enemy tries to engage your APCs directly with armour of its own.

The All-arms Battle is alive and well and the MBT has an important role to play in it but you're right to suggest that we will have to think about drones.

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I suspect the Armata Tank will have the same issue - all 3 crew are in the fwd lower hull so totally dependent upon optics/cameras to see around the vehicle

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So a couple of paintballers could blind and effectively take out an armoured Regt.
 
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The third bullet point - so this handful of vehicles is to make up for the lack of infantry? I see a massive fail about to happen.
 

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