Russian Troop Movements Reported Near Ukraine

When Will Russia Invade Ukraine

  • Wed 16th Feb

    Votes: 19 6.7%
  • Before 22nd Feb

    Votes: 54 19.1%
  • By St David's Day (1 March)

    Votes: 90 31.9%
  • By St Georges Day (23 April)

    Votes: 21 7.4%
  • By August

    Votes: 9 3.2%
  • By Christmas

    Votes: 6 2.1%
  • Some time in 2023

    Votes: 15 5.3%
  • Before Hell Freezes Over

    Votes: 68 24.1%

  • Total voters
    282
Does it need to be Western/ NATO escort ships? Its mostly the developing world who needs the grain: set it up as buyer collects and provides own escort. Share the pain and inconvenience...

The buyer is very often the WFP, and they lack a navy. Additionally, no military vessels of non-Black Sea countries can enter the Bosphorous due to wartime rules. Possibly Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey could share escort duties, while staying in the Black Sea?
 
Domestic politics nearly always trumps foreign policy for populist leaders.
Nearly?

Fvcking NEARLY!??? :roll:

The word you need is INVARIABLY.

Trust me on this ^~

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That said, I've still no chuffing idea what domestic issues led us into Eye-Rack or The 'Ghan,, both of which seemed to me to be misguidedly driven by Tony's faith that getting involved would somehow deter actions like the one we're watching unfold in UKR right now . . .
 
I am just posting on a public forum chat board, partly for enjoyment but I have been lurking on Arrse for 6 - 7 years before joining recently mainly to talk about the Ukraine crisis. The 'serious' reason I am here at all is I am interested in geopolitics but I have no professional or commercial reason. However, I used to work in the international commodity trade and have moved ships through international sea lanes subject to war risk in the past. I also used to move large ships in and out of the Black Sea every week so have a particular knowledge of the location and the sea borne trade in that area.

There is no 'odd' or 'sinister' reason behind my post. I would like to know how NATO and UN is going to deal with the risk of sea mines as well as potential threats from Russian naval action against merchant shipping. My comment about the Royal Navy minesweepers is because I envisaged Russia viewing their presence in the Black Sea as inflammatory.

It is 'important' in the sense that blocking global commodity trade out of the Black Sea could have a dramatic effect on the World economy as well as create geopolitical instability across Developing Countries as inflation and starvation takes hold.

Based where then MTO?
 
And remember this guy, I think he got in trouble for his last interview so they gave him an Emcon script to read out tonight.



It’s amazing how the Russians are implementing the U.K. yet again!
Seems the U.K. is holding back and pushing out Russian forces - even by training according to Russian propaganda.

They do realise they are stating that the U.K. is defeating them……… according to their logic?
 
And remember this guy, I think he got in trouble for his last interview so they gave him an Emcon script to read out tonight.



The previous clip was a brief cherry pick with no indication of the context in which the words should be placed.

This clip is also a brief cherry pick and the only context we have is the twatt who posted it telling us what to believe!

Previously, the ex-colonel suggested that winning the war was not going to be as easy as some wanted to believe. This clip only serves to highlight that they won't be losing any time soon either.
 

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Just watching the news and there has been a feature on the grain stockpiles that Uke farmers have but that no-one wants to buy because of the situation and the difficulties getting the stuff out of the country. Can't go by sea because of Russian naval activity and they've also mined the sea lanes into Uke ports, it seems. Trucks west to Poland too inefficient. Trains not numerous enough,

Perhaps the west needs to look at its aid effort as being more than military and start looking at shipping locos and hopper wagons over there, too? We'd have to source them from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, though, for reasons of gauge but it's doable.

Holy excrement!! As I type a Russian MP, Yevgeni Popov, has just told BBC reporter that Russia has not been aggressive or invaded Ukraine. With a straight face. The question was over Russia saying it's going to try Uke PoWs for war crimes as they are aggressive murderers. BBC boy pointed out that Uke army has indeed killed people - but those people are Russian soldiers that have invaded their country, not civilians.
 
It’s amazing how the Russians are implementing the U.K. yet again!
Seems the U.K. is holding back and pushing out Russian forces - even by training according to Russian propaganda.

They do realise they are stating that the U.K. is defeating them……… according to their logic?
"every reason to believe" "at some point in the future" etc. etc.
 

nice guy

War Hero
The Ukrainians need a "spectacular" like destroying a sub or such like, because interest is begining to wane. They slipped in about 5th story tonight, soon it;ll be pics with the newscaster talking over it for 30 seconds.
 
What the Russians fail to grasp is that such an obvious change of tack rather confirms his previous messages.
To external audiences.

To the internal (RUS) audience - and that's the real target - it sends another message, about THOUGHTCRIME and WRONGTHINK

From an anti-RUS PoV it seems to me that it's bog-standard RUS behaviour, and of no real significance.
 

nice guy

War Hero
Just watching the news and there has been a feature on the grain stockpiles that Uke farmers have but that no-one wants to buy because of the situation and the difficulties getting the stuff out of the country. Can't go by sea because of Russian naval activity and they've also mined the sea lanes into Uke ports, it seems. Trucks west to Poland too inefficient. Trains not numerous enough,

Perhaps the west needs to look at its aid effort as being more than military and start looking at shipping locos and hopper wagons over there, too? We'd have to source them from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, though, for reasons of gauge but it's doable.

Holy excrement!! As I type a Russian MP, Yevgeni Popov, has just told BBC reporter that Russia has not been aggressive or invaded Ukraine. With a straight face. The question was over Russia saying it's going to try Uke PoWs for war crimes as they are aggressive murderers. BBC boy pointed out that Uke army has indeed killed people - but those people are Russian soldiers that have invaded their country, not civilians.

No they need to attack the Black sea Fleet preferably in Harbor, thats the only way to prevent several million people in the Third world starving to death
 
Blinding. Someone find out what he's on, coz it isn't tea.

Ukes are hard work for the Russians because we trained them, they learnt well, and they are motivated to **** fighting for their loved ones, their homes and their country. This is the moral force that drives them. What's the Russian fighting for ? None of the above and no-one gives a damn for his life. Where's his motivation ? What moral force does he have ? Nothing he does brings him freedom or a better life.
The whole lot of them seem to be on something that would be deemed illegal in most countries.
 
He had interview without vodka?
Anyone else catch the bit where he said Snake island was carried out with the help of British instructors?

That's quite a claim for a Russian military bloke to make on state telly.

I wonder why they go after us instead of the yanks? Maybe it's safer to blame the Brits rather than another major superpower?
 
The previous clip was a brief cherry pick with no indication of the context in which the words should be placed.

This clip is also a brief cherry pick and the only context we have is the twatt who posted it telling us what to believe!

Previously, the ex-colonel suggested that winning the war was not going to be as easy as some wanted to believe. This clip only serves to highlight that they won't be losing any time soon either.
They've been losing for several weeks.
In fact, ever since the "three days to capture Kyiv" went mammary glands up.
 

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