Russian spy in Sweden

#1
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/17/sweden.russia.reut/index.html

A Swedish court charged a Russian researcher at an agricultural genetics laboratory in Sweden with spying for a foreign power on Friday, and the chief prosecutor said the suspect had put the armed forces at risk.
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The Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences said on its Web site that a "guest researcher at the Genetics Center" had been arrested but gave no more details of his identity or activities, saying the case was "a matter of the utmost secrecy."
 
#3
CC_TA said:
Didn't have any 'Rocks' with him did he? :lol:

CC_TA
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I suspect that mr.Zamyatin 30 was datained because of British rocks. After 2 weeks he would be silently freed but opinion has been formed - these evil Russians send spies even to neutral Sweden. Have Swedes at least something to hide?
 

Nehustan

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#5
Funny that this post is here, because I was thinking only this week what a hotspot the baltic states must have been in the cold war. I guess that's why the Marines were off piste in Norway....
 
#8
Let's apply a common sense.

Sweden is a neutral country but in time of 'Cold war' its territory would be used by NATO (why not?) in any possible conflict. So information about Sweden coastal line, military bases and so on was not of the highest importance but at least useful. Incidents with submarines routinely explained as a 'mistake'. but I believe they were mistakes in intelligence operations.

Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

In this context spy activity in Sweden is as logical as Russian intelligence operations in Burundi. It is possible that technological espionage took place but unlikely it is connected with military industry. Sweden hasn't unique military technologies or weapon systems.
 
#9
Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

In this context spy activity in Sweden is as logical as Russian intelligence operations in Burundi. It is possible that technological espionage took place but unlikely it is connected with military industry. Sweden hasn't unique military technologies or weapon systems

I just thought I would post these two Items that I have read about recently, they may be related or they may not.

Why is the U.S. Navy Leasing a Swedish Submarine

http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/164/documentid/2873/history/3,2360,656,164,2873


February 17, 2006: Some Swedish politicians and journalists are upset that the new American "smart" artillery shell is being built with Swedish components and technology. The U.S. Excalibur 155mm shell is guided by GPS, and contains a number of components made in Sweden.
 
#10
NEO_CON said:
Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

In this context spy activity in Sweden is as logical as Russian intelligence operations in Burundi. It is possible that technological espionage took place but unlikely it is connected with military industry. Sweden hasn't unique military technologies or weapon systems

I just thought I would post these two Items that I have read about recently, they may be related or they may not.

Why is the U.S. Navy Leasing a Swedish Submarine

http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/164/documentid/2873/history/3,2360,656,164,2873

February 17, 2006: Some Swedish politicians and journalists are upset that the new American "smart" artillery shell is being built with Swedish components and technology. The U.S. Excalibur 155mm shell is guided by GPS, and contains a number of components made in Sweden.
Thank you!

Reasonable thoughts and very interesting information. By the way

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/01/18/robot.shtml

Russia said it was buying a British robot submarine of the type that last year helped rescue seven of its sailors stranded on the seabed
Sometimes it is more cheaper to buy (or lend) existing system or component.

http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/10/21/indiasub.shtml

The Indian navy is set to lease a nuclear-powered submarine from Russia
 
#11
KGB_resident said:
Let's apply a common sense.

Sweden is a neutral country but in time of 'Cold war' its territory would be used by NATO (why not?) in any possible conflict. So information about Sweden coastal line, military bases and so on was not of the highest importance but at least useful. Incidents with submarines routinely explained as a 'mistake'. but I believe they were mistakes in intelligence operations.

Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

In this context spy activity in Sweden is as logical as Russian intelligence operations in Burundi. It is possible that technological espionage took place but unlikely it is connected with military industry. Sweden hasn't unique military technologies or weapon systems.
At the time of the Cold War, Sweden could call on over 1 million trained (and equipped) personnel to stop the Red Army. NATO would not have gone into Sweden, more they relied on them (the Swedish) to buy some time, thus allowing Norge to be reinforced. This was good news to those of us who trained in Norge every winter, and gives a good indication of why the Sovs were serious in their spying and surveillance. I suspect the "Whiskey on the Rocks" saga had more to do with Vodka than anything else.
Now that the Cold War is over (apart from the sneaky Gas plot), the Swedes are undergoing swingeing defence cuts. I was serving with a Swede half colonel last year who was in tears when he realised his regiment (one of the oldest) was to be completely disbanded.
With these cuts in mind, one should wonder why Russian spying is still going on. Old habits die hard, I guess.
 
#12
staaken said:
KGB_resident said:
Let's apply a common sense.

Sweden is a neutral country but in time of 'Cold war' its territory would be used by NATO (why not?) in any possible conflict. So information about Sweden coastal line, military bases and so on was not of the highest importance but at least useful. Incidents with submarines routinely explained as a 'mistake'. but I believe they were mistakes in intelligence operations.

Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

In this context spy activity in Sweden is as logical as Russian intelligence operations in Burundi. It is possible that technological espionage took place but unlikely it is connected with military industry. Sweden hasn't unique military technologies or weapon systems.
At the time of the Cold War, Sweden could call on over 1 million trained (and equipped) personnel to stop the Red Army. NATO would not have gone into Sweden, more they relied on them (the Swedish) to buy some time, thus allowing Norge to be reinforced. This was good news to those of us who trained in Norge every winter, and gives a good indication of why the Sovs were serious in their spying and surveillance. I suspect the "Whiskey on the Rocks" saga had more to do with Vodka than anything else.
Now that the Cold War is over (apart from the sneaky Gas plot), the Swedes are undergoing swingeing defence cuts. I was serving with a Swede half colonel last year who was in tears when he realised his regiment (one of the oldest) was to be completely disbanded.
With these cuts in mind, one should wonder why Russian spying is still going on. Old habits die hard, I guess.
I live in Sweden when not playing ex-pat in the Middle East, the town where I live, a former major Swedish garrison town has been hit hard (forgive the pun) by the defence cuts. The Swedish forces are still deploying on UN missions as well as in Afgan' where I have some good mates serving.
The Swedish still have the "Hemvarnet" (Home Guard) to protect vital installations and for small offensive operations and while they could only do so much damage they have would slowed down any Russian advance. The forests and mountain are or were dotted with hidden arms caches, away from the main areas to be used in the event of war. (I find people that come from a hunting background very effective in this type of operation, pity our dear leaders see the shooter in the UK as a danger rather than an asset...sorry for the digression!)

I suspect as above, the Russians are still up to their old tricks, gaining intelligence whether of a military or industrial nature. The other problem for Sweden is the increase in crime from criminal organisations originating in Russia, Eastern Europe and the Turks to mention a few.
 
#13
KatK9 said:
staaken said:
KGB_resident said:
Let's apply a common sense.

Sweden is a neutral country but in time of 'Cold war' its territory would be used by NATO (why not?) in any possible conflict. So information about Sweden coastal line, military bases and so on was not of the highest importance but at least useful. Incidents with submarines routinely explained as a 'mistake'. but I believe they were mistakes in intelligence operations.

Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

In this context spy activity in Sweden is as logical as Russian intelligence operations in Burundi. It is possible that technological espionage took place but unlikely it is connected with military industry. Sweden hasn't unique military technologies or weapon systems.
At the time of the Cold War, Sweden could call on over 1 million trained (and equipped) personnel to stop the Red Army. NATO would not have gone into Sweden, more they relied on them (the Swedish) to buy some time, thus allowing Norge to be reinforced. This was good news to those of us who trained in Norge every winter, and gives a good indication of why the Sovs were serious in their spying and surveillance. I suspect the "Whiskey on the Rocks" saga had more to do with Vodka than anything else.
Now that the Cold War is over (apart from the sneaky Gas plot), the Swedes are undergoing swingeing defence cuts. I was serving with a Swede half colonel last year who was in tears when he realised his regiment (one of the oldest) was to be completely disbanded.
With these cuts in mind, one should wonder why Russian spying is still going on. Old habits die hard, I guess.
I live in Sweden when not playing ex-pat in the Middle East, the town where I live, a former major Swedish garrison town has been hit hard (forgive the pun) by the defence cuts. The Swedish forces are still deploying on UN missions as well as in Afgan' where I have some good mates serving.
The Swedish still have the "Hemvarnet" (Home Guard) to protect vital installations and for small offensive operations and while they could only do so much damage they have would slowed down any Russian advance. The forests and mountain are or were dotted with hidden arms caches, away from the main areas to be used in the event of war. (I find people that come from a hunting background very effective in this type of operation, pity our dear leaders see the shooter in the UK as a danger rather than an asset...sorry for the digression!)

I suspect as above, the Russians are still up to their old tricks, gaining intelligence whether of a military or industrial nature. The other problem for Sweden is the increase in crime from criminal organisations originating in Russia, Eastern Europe and the Turks to mention a few.
Katk9,
My Swedish friend described the tactics to be employed by these small (Militia) groups as something the Finns had developed when fighting the Sovs - I can't remember the name though.
He also was raging about the Govt, who decided not only to cut his unit, but also to send the others to the far north, describing the move as lunacy (for logistical reasons) but also put it into perspective by comparing, that if they had been sent south the same distance, they'd be stationed not far north of Rome!
 

Cutaway

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#14
KGB_resident said:
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Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

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Kinell, you've started early !

Rasputin vodka by any chance ?


KGB_resident said:
Let's apply a common sense.
It'd be a start.
 
#15
Cutaway said:
KGB_resident said:
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Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

...
Kinell, you've started early !

Rasputin vodka by any chance ?
Rasputin? Made in Gemany. It is a hard task to find this sheep-dip in Moscow.

As to possible invasion in Russia (after imaginary destruction of nucler weapons) then British, French, American, Japanese troops were sent in Russia during the civil war (more than 80 years ago). And only naive bumpkin would believe that invasion in Russia is absolutely impossible in future.
 
#16
:wink:
KGB_resident said:
Cutaway said:
KGB_resident said:
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Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

...
Kinell, you've started early !

Rasputin vodka by any chance ?
Rasputin? Made in Gemany. It is a hard task to find this sheep-dip in Moscow.

As to possible invasion in Russia (after imaginary destruction of nucler weapons) then British, French, American, Japanese troops were sent in Russia during the civil war (more than 80 years ago). And only naive bumpkin would believe that invasion in Russia is absolutely impossible in future.
Well actually being a genuine bumpkin from Somerset :lol: but certainly not naive (except where women are involved :p ) I find it impossible to think that the "western powers" :D have plans to invade Russia, yes they may have plans on the shelf as contingency plans from the old days but we are so committed in Iraq, Afgan' and God knows next in Iran to even consider it.


A good number of Swedish units were moved north to Ostersund which is around 8 hours drive from Stockholm, which our Russian friends will have noted closely I expect :wink:
 
#17
:wink:
KGB_resident said:
Cutaway said:
KGB_resident said:
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Now situation hav been changed dramatically. Even in theory Russia is unable to launch war against NATO. By contrast NATO has sufficient resorces, weapons, man-power for invasion in Russia. Remove Russian nuclear weapons and I asure you that plans for such an invasion would be regarded in Washington very seriously.

...
Kinell, you've started early !

Rasputin vodka by any chance ?
Rasputin? Made in Gemany. It is a hard task to find this sheep-dip in Moscow.

As to possible invasion in Russia (after imaginary destruction of nucler weapons) then British, French, American, Japanese troops were sent in Russia during the civil war (more than 80 years ago). And only naive bumpkin would believe that invasion in Russia is absolutely impossible in future.
Well actually being a genuine bumpkin from Somerset :lol: but certainly not naive (except where women are involved :p ) I find it impossible to think that the "western powers" :D have plans to invade Russia, yes they may have plans on the shelf as contingency plans from the old days but we are so committed in Iraq, Afgan' and God knows next in Iran to even consider it.


I know that the Hemvarnet would have been used (during the cold war) at key points and harrassing the enemy locally and the (SF) Rangers would have been out playing sneaky buggers....My eyes have been opened to the role the Swedish army takes on, I never came across any while in the mob and thought they were neutral :oops: But having seen them train and heard the war stories :lol: as well employing them in CP jobs, they are certainly good at what they do and getting down to basics the women are very nice too :lol:
 
#19
Aside from Soviet submarines 'accidentally' entering Swedish territorial waters, weren't there incidents of Soviet frogmen washing up on the Swedish coast?

I doubt if the Russians actually have any reason to concern themselves with the Swedes - the Great Northen War was a long time ago, and have they seen the state of Swedish society lately?
 
#20
gallowglass said:
Aside from Soviet submarines 'accidentally' entering Swedish territorial waters, weren't there incidents of Soviet frogmen washing up on the Swedish coast?
Gallowglass! I'm unaware about such cases. Are lakes in Kavan full of Russian frogmen?

gallowglass said:
I doubt if the Russians actually have any reason to concern themselves with the Swedes - the Great Northen War was a long time ago, and have they seen the state of Swedish society lately?
There is a possible explanation: technological espionage (including military areas). As to Swedish spy activity in Russia then I wonder what are possible causes?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/535487.stm

A Russian military court has jailed a former naval officer on charges of spying for Sweden.

The court sentenced Russian-born Sergei Velichko to five years in prison for handing secrets about the Russian's Baltic fleet to the Swedish secret service.

A Russian military spokesman said Mr Velichko had been given a more lenient sentence than usual because he had confessed to his crimes and had helped uncover other Swedish spies.
 

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