Russian 'intelligence' comedy of errors

Do you want to keep it this millennium? Or put yourself in the same bracket as Hussein and Assad, using CW on your own population?

Russia, under your current govt is a rogue state. It may view itself as a successor state of the Holy Roman Empire. In fact it’s just shown itself as a sulking child with its religious actions

The U.K. doesn’t have a Novichok programme. PD is one of the most inspected labs in OPCW as it is one of those used for tests. Russia has and failed to declare it when it joined the CWC. Your ‘crooks and thieves’ remain a mafia govt in charge of a rogue state.

No, let YarS/Grey Fox quote things from last century if he wants to!!

That way, we can talk about the ten million, yes TEN MILLION Russians Stalin killed.

We can talk about why Stalin killed more of his own countrymen than the Germans managed to kill Jews, and the Germans were trying to eradicate an entire race.

Maybe Grey Fox will want to talk about why Stalin had most of his officer corps killed, or perhaps he will want to talk about the Karyn massacre.

He might want to talk about Russia invading Hungary.

There is just so much that Russia has done to suppress its own people or their freedom that including last century give Grey Fox loads to mention.

He might even want to mention how Russia was so crap in WW1 that they had to exit it early, and British troops had to defend Russia on its behalf.

He might want to talk about the Artic convoys where the UK sent aid and kit to Russia in WW2 to help it defend itself from the Germans.

At the end of the day he will want to talk about anything other than the GRU agents the Russian state sent to England to murder a Russian citizen that Russia's president had called a traitor and said would die.
He won't want to talk honestly about the OPCW who are infinitely more qualified with chemical weapons than Grey Fox/YarS are who confirmed that the NA the GRU pair used was Novichock.
 
May be. May be not. But Brits surely wouldn't have stopped Germans without The Channel.
Possibly a point. But possibly not as good as the non-aggression pact between Hitler and Stalin which allowed the Germans to start WW2 in 1939.

And, don't forget, the "Brits" did stop the Germans in 1940, and later supplied the USSR with much needed arms and equipment via the North Cape at a huge cost in men and equipment. Even your own Government admits this with the award of medals to British personnel involved.

You hypocritical person ( please insert alternative word as appropriate without involving Moderator input).
 
Ha! I remember West histeria about "evil Russians", "murdered innocent beardes pregnant virgin Chechens", "Baltic freedom-supressors", " slaughteur in Baku" and so on.. Technically, Russia, in Western media was not "Good", but "Not as bad as usual" only since Dec 1991 to Dec 1994. Before it since June 1941 to March 1946, and since July 1914 to October of 1917. Summary - 11 years in century.
Pretty much, as I said, peaks and troughs. You seem to need a strong leader pushing a false ‘victim’ narrative as you’re explaining quite well.

Anyway, why are you scared to admit you are Yaraslov?
 
@Maple.

The only real downside to wiping Russians from the face of the earth with nukes is that the population wouldn't have enough time to curse Putin for getting them into the situation with his constant moronic behaviour before they were vapourised or burned to death.

Apart from that it's a good idea all round.
It's entirely our own fault for believing that the Russians would willingly throw off the shackles of communism, and welcome democratic liberalism. How wrong we were to think that the Russians were like Europeans.
 
Try to search. Little hint: Petrov have at least one page of one of his companies in Facebook.
How could a simple search reveal this when "Petrov" was too 'scared' to reveal any useful details at all about their business when he was interviewed? Perhaps the "Petrov" you refer to is a completely different person?

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It's entirely our own fault for believing that the Russians would willingly throw off the shackles of communism, and welcome democratic liberalism. How wrong we were to think that the Russians were like Europeans.
The troll posts often remind me of how someone summed up the average Russian.

They said: Russians don't generally trust their government, but won't do or think anything for themselves so live in poor conditions by choice.
 
My pleasure.

No. There are no any "Russian Novichik class nerve agent". It is not exists at all. OPCW confirmed, that victims (without proving their identies) were poisoned by the substance, identical to one, given by Porton-Down labs. Porton-Down labs called it "Novichok", and as it is not registered trademark, they can do it.


Thats exactly what I mean - nobody (exept Brits) saw Skripals in the Hospital.

Surely not. Thirty years ago Vil Mirzajanov published book about "Novichok", and since that time, all of them were produced by any seriouse CW laboratory in the world (including Porton-Down, of course).
Didn't someone ask a few pages ago if anyone credible had claimed that they were poisoned by the British?
No, still hasn't happened.
 
It's entirely our own fault for believing that the Russians would willingly throw off the shackles of communism, and welcome democratic liberalism.
Russians (many of them) like democratic liberalism. In their own understanding of the term, of course, but Russians have more political freedoms then Brits.

How wrong we were to think that the Russians were like Europeans.
Really? Somebody think so, when supported Islamistic extremists, terrorists and murders in Chechnya and Kosovo, Neo-Nazies in Ukraine and Tribaltic, and invading in the Middle East countries without permission of UN SC and against will of Russia?
 
Russians (many of them) like democratic liberalism. In their own understanding of the term, of course, but Russians have more political freedoms then Brits.
We’ve had this discussion and you’re lying again.
Really? Somebody think so, when supported Islamistic extremists, terrorists and murders in Chechnya
You said the same when posting as @YarS and again provided no proof
and Kosovo, Neo-Nazies in Ukraine and Tribaltic,
More @YarS idiocy
and invading in the Middle East countries without permission of UN SC and against will of Russia?
There is a unanimous UNSC Resolution on Iraq and Syria

Why are you scared to admit to being @YarS? Did one of the trolls or friends of trolls tell you to create a new account?
 
His English is better than yours, and his German is better that one of most Germans.
I’m not surprised, he’s stolen $60Bn from your people
 
@Grey Fox

Thus political freedom you say Russians have, do you gave any good examples.

Here in the UK we can obviously freely say all kinds of things about our politicians with no comeback.

As an easy example, I can say Prime minister May is a complete moron and not fit to wipe the faeces from my backside.

With your greater freedom you will no doubt reply saying the exact same thing about Putin. It will be easier for you with your greater freedom.

If you were telling lies about the freedom them obviously don't say the same about Putin, or you will get into trouble.
 
We’ve had this discussion and you’re lying again.

You said the same when posting as @YarS and again provided no proof

More @YarS idiocy
Do you want to say, that it was @YarS, who was responsible for the West politics in previouse thirty years?

There is a unanimous UNSC Resolution on Iraq and Syria
Now tell us, that NATO expansion and exit from ABD-treaty was also result of @YarS idioty.

Why are you scared to admit to being @YarS? Did one of the trolls or friends of trolls tell you to create a new account?
Why you are scared to admit to being @HectortheInspector ?
 
Pretty much, as I said, peaks and troughs. You seem to need a strong leader pushing a false ‘victim’ narrative as you’re explaining quite well.
Wow! More than one hundred million of victims in the wars with Westies only at previouse century is the 'false victim narrative'? Such level of ignorance is too much even for Brit.
 
Go on then, tell us.
Disclaimer: I dont want to tell anything bad your political system - it is result of your political history, and it is your own system. It is not my business. Anyway freedom demands responsibilty and some intellectual abilities, and Brits have problems about it.
Now lets compare:
1. Russia is Respublic, the UK is Kingdom. Russians can elect their "state leader", Brits - no.
2. Russians can vote for personalities - Brits only for parties.
3. Russian parliament have more parties, and don't have any "Lords". Russian parties can make advertisments and have more effective communications with electorate.
4. Russians have more wider specter of allowed political opinions.
5. There are less reasons to be arrested in Russia - nobody can be aressted for "trolling", "hate speech", discussions about migrants or perverts. Even for real organization of illegal demonstrations maximal punishment is two month (not two years, as in the UK).
What is more important, Russians have much more political abilities - for example, more of them know foreign languages and foreign political systems.
 

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