Russian 'intelligence' comedy of errors

In your worked-up state you appear to have forgotten the evidence, proof and absolute facts that I asked you to post yesterday.

Try again when you calm down a bit.



Well that's a stroke of luck for the believers-with-no-proof-club, eh?

Not getting to see any of ukgov's 'evidence' before it's shown in a UK court of law.

What what happen to this 'evidence' if there was never a court-case?
I wonder.........



Wow, you're so sharp I bet you cut yourself once in a while.

That's maybe because the article is something called satire.
Maybe you've heard of the word?
ukgov and plod are certainly aware of the existence of this word.


Didn't you ever wonder why the uk's state broadcaster decided not to run a skripal-piece on crimewatch over the last 7mths.
After all plod admitted to knowing nothing about anything a few times, didn't they?

This satirical piece demonstrates why there has been a minimum of asking-for-witnesses on tv with this case.
If the civpop in the UK were ever actually aware of the anomalies with this case a lot more answers would be demanded to a lot more questions.

As it is this whole mess has morphed a number of times already, off in different directions... It's very hard to keep track of what is supposed to now be gen and what is now deemed to be duff.

That's the point though.




Quite a few of us care, surprising you don't think it means much.
This whole thing has always has been up there with a string-vest and Swiss cheese since day1/wk1 but you're still cheering for the team that has provided minimum evidence

The perfume bottle that broke or didn't break is another interesting sub-topic that has rx'd no real investigating.


I wonder where the nozzle was fitted into the internal packaging when the whole thing was packaged up?

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One would have thought plod (or whoever's is currently running plod) would have taken time to show both sides of the Ricci box so everyone could be confident that everything being pushed was halal.

We only ever get this side of the box though.

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Back to the CCTV, where 99.999% is being kept from us.

Why the need for the heavy crop?


















As it has now been confirmed that all the cameras were all working there should be no shortage of evidence of what went on that Sunday.

Curious that the civpop being able to actually see the evidence all depends on there being a court-case sometime in the future.



So, one more time...for the benefit of those at the back..

Where is the evidence?
I'm surprised you're not over this one like a syphilitic chancre with all the plot holes and contradictions:

Gun attack at Crimea college kills 19

initial reports were a gas cylinder explosion, then terrorist attack, then lone gunman, some died of gunshot wounds, then shrapnel, first it was 10 dead, then 18 now it's 19, he had a hunting rifle but another report said he bought shotgun cartridges.

So many conflicting reports, so many holes in the official story.

I bet Rusgov have created a false flag to divert from the pension reforms, or a pretext to invade the rest of Ukraine.

This is big, real big. Explosive and guns were used. You should be really delving into this with your lazer like intellect.

ETA: Stop press. 118 118. get on to it right now. They're mocking us.

Now it's 21 dead. Please hurry. We need answers, and we need them now.

Crimean College Shooting: What We Know So Far

The Russian Health Ministry later said 21 people had died in the attack.
ETA 2: Stop stop press. Now they're taking the piss. On the very same page, it's showing both 18 and 21 dead.

The Moscow Times — News, Business, Culture & Events

Now it's ultra urgent. Wake up and slide down the emergency pole into your conspiraloon cave and do battle with the perfidious powers that govern us.

ETA 3: Quick, before others get in on the act and muddy the waters. Look, Human Rights Ukraine have got a piece trying to make sense of it. Don't let them spoil your fun.

Russia stops calling the Kerch mass killing terrorism when it can’t blame Ukraine or Crimean Tatars - Human Rights in Ukraine

The Russian website Lenta.ru reported after it was already clear that one person had carried out the shooting that the suspect “looked like a [Crimean] Tatar”. This was allegedly from “a source within the law enforcement agencies” and was later corrected, presumably after the absurdity of this allegation became evident from the photos of Roslyakov.
 
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On a serious note, sympathies are with the families and friends.

Опубликован официальный список погибших в Керченском политехническом колледже | Правительство Республики Крым | Официальный портал

Stepanenko Sergey Alexandrovich born 2003
Karymov Roman Valerievich 1997
Ustenko Lyudmila Aleksandrovna 1953
Perepelkin Egor Andreevich 1999
Zhuravleva Anna Alexandrovna 1998
Verdibozhenko Vladislav Evgenievich 2003
Kerova Alina Sergeevna 2002
Lysenko Ruslan Valerievich 2000
Juraev Ruden Rishatovich 2001
Lazarev Vladislav Vitalevich 1999
Lavrinovich Alexey Vitalevich 1999
Florensky Nikita Danilovich 2002
Pipenko Danil Igorevich 2002
Chegerest Darya Aleksandrovna 2002
Moiseenko Alexander Vladimirovich 1972
Baklanova Anastasia Vyacheslavovna 1991
Baklanova Svetlana Yuryevna 1961
Kudryavtseva Larisa Borisovna 1956
Boldina Ksenia Alexandrovna 2000
The world is pretty fucked these days


Getting beyond that, it’s a perfect example of changing details, not due to conspiracy or cover up, but as facts, rumours, half truths and interpretations get around

I'm surprised you're not over this one like a syphilitic chancre with all the plot holes and contradictions:

Gun attack at Crimea college kills 19

initial reports were a gas cylinder explosion, then terrorist attack, then lone gunman, some died of gunshot wounds, then shrapnel, first it was 10 dead, then 18 now it's 19, he had a hunting rifle but another report said he bought shotgun cartridges.

So many conflicting reports, so many holes in the official story.

I bet Rusgov have created a false flag to divert from the pension reforms, or a pretext to invade the rest of Ukraine.

This is big, real big. Explosive and guns were used. You should be really delving into this with your lazer like intellect.

ETA: Stop press. 118 118. get on to it right now. They're mocking us.

Now it's 21 dead. Please hurry. We need answers, and we need them now.

Crimean College Shooting: What We Know So Far



ETA 2: Stop stop press. Now they're taking the piss. On the very same page, it's showing both 18 and 21 dead.

The Moscow Times — News, Business, Culture & Events

Now it's ultra urgent. Wake up and slide down the emergency pole into your conspiraloon cave and do battle with the perfidious powers that govern us.
 
Ha! Surely, if any Brit will demonstrated even the shadow of doubts in government's version - he will be called "uncredible", abd may be - even arrested.
What? Like all the comments on articles that you and your friends have quoted. Or are you stating that any disagreement to “the line” made in Britain is actually a Russian troll
 
Ha! Surely, if any Brit will demonstrated even the shadow of doubts in government's version - he will be called "uncredible", abd may be - even arrested.
More lies. Don't judge the actions of your 'crooks and thieves' with those of the UK. Oh, and don't let the Cathedral doors hit you on your way out
 
On a serious note, sympathies are with the families and friends.

Опубликован официальный список погибших в Керченском политехническом колледже | Правительство Республики Крым | Официальный портал

Stepanenko Sergey Alexandrovich born 2003
Karymov Roman Valerievich 1997
Ustenko Lyudmila Aleksandrovna 1953
Perepelkin Egor Andreevich 1999
Zhuravleva Anna Alexandrovna 1998
Verdibozhenko Vladislav Evgenievich 2003
Kerova Alina Sergeevna 2002
Lysenko Ruslan Valerievich 2000
Juraev Ruden Rishatovich 2001
Lazarev Vladislav Vitalevich 1999
Lavrinovich Alexey Vitalevich 1999
Florensky Nikita Danilovich 2002
Pipenko Danil Igorevich 2002
Chegerest Darya Aleksandrovna 2002
Moiseenko Alexander Vladimirovich 1972
Baklanova Anastasia Vyacheslavovna 1991
Baklanova Svetlana Yuryevna 1961
Kudryavtseva Larisa Borisovna 1956
Boldina Ksenia Alexandrovna 2000
The world is pretty fucked these days


Getting beyond that, it’s a perfect example of changing details, not due to conspiracy or cover up, but as facts, rumours, half truths and interpretations get around

Indeed, and I was being glib and sarcy for a reason as you can guess.

RIP to those who died and best wishes to those who were injured. And maybe the perp too since he more than likely either had mental health issues or needed help though I'm only surmising.

And exactly right. The initial reports can change as new facts come in and we won't know the full story in detail since we get it 2nd and 3rd hand. Only those who are investigating are likely to have a version closest to it from what they can piece together.
 
Ok. How many confirmed British aborigens at this forum, demonstrated doubts in the official version?
I doubted it in the beginning.

I said to myself "mmm Truxx, the Russians would not be that stupid or incompetent"

Just goes to show how opinions can change over time, as I have no doubts whatsoever now.

The Russians did it, in a dramatically stupid and incompetent way matched only by the continuing torrent of stupidity and incompetence from the troll farms.
 
Ok. How many confirmed British aborigens at this forum, demonstrated doubts in the official version?
British aborigines? I don't know anyone who calls themselves that. If you mean, how many Brits on this forum have questioned the UK govt's stance, quite a few on about five threads. They're still here as well. plus there's all of those articles in the press.

There's been no 'pogrom's' against them either.
 
Ok. How many confirmed British aborigens at this forum, demonstrated doubts in the official version?
I have had doubts - not on the “official version” but on versions in the media (that have been called the “official line” especially by @184461), and have highlighted many a time that they are opinions of those making the statements

The actual official version - “that it is highly likely”, I have agreed with, and formed such an opinion before that was stated

Prior to the realisation of who the intended victim was, I could partially believe the drugs line, but it was a bit odd and didn’t totally fit even before the former spy identity was known
 
Sir, I'm very sorry. I would like to bring my sincere apologies because primitive expressions that I have used were insulting for great English language that is rich for means to express different shades of any sort of feelings in the most beautiful and understandable way.
You cun't imagine how your obedient servant is delighted by your kind post.
Dear God, you can't even stop lying when you try and fail to be funny.

Is it something endemic in Russia that you simply can't be honest?

It is it that you only get a real belly laugh out of murder?
 

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Classic. From the poster that:
Denies the GRU exist, despite it widely being used for the GU
Denies Russian involvement in the use of a Nerve Agent on UK soil.
Denies the two ‘Russian tourists’ are GRU (aka GU)
Denies Russian involvement in MH17
Denies raping somebody, despite admitting it was to diminish her and her menfolk
Denies everything full stop that Russia is ever accused of and denied by his govt.

Look up cognitive dissonance.
This rape thing has been mentioned a few times. Where does it come from?
 
This rape thing has been mentioned a few times. Where does it come from?
Its based on statements made by him about his activities in Chechnya
Some one (eg @scalieback ) can link it - it was linked previously when I asked the question.

Its in the Ukraine thread I think or possibly the Russia victim thread
YarS' anti-west Russian apologist thread
YarS said:
Dredd said:
Wait - are you freely admitting that you abused a position of power in order to exploit a hungry female just for your own personal gratification?
Yes. Not only for my personal gratification. Also it was some kind of humiliation of her male relatives and may be, even little lesson of discipline and prevention of terroristic activity. My honour is ability to crush their honour.
 

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